Date:   Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:23:01 -0700
From:   Peter Gonda <pgonda@...gle.com>
To:     Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v7 62/64] x86/sev: Add KVM commands for instance certs

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 8:10 AM Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com> wrote:
>
> On 1/10/23 01:10, Dov Murik wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > On 10/01/2023 0:27, Tom Lendacky wrote:
> >> On 1/9/23 10:55, Dionna Amalie Glaze wrote:
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +static int snp_set_instance_certs(struct kvm *kvm, struct
> >>>>> kvm_sev_cmd *argp)
> >>>>> +{
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>
> >>>> Here we set the length to the page-aligned value, but we copy only
> >>>> params.cert_len bytes.  If there are two subsequent
> >>>> snp_set_instance_certs() calls where the second one has a shorter
> >>>> length, we might "keep" some leftover bytes from the first call.
> >>>>
> >>>> Consider:
> >>>> 1. snp_set_instance_certs(certs_addr point to "AAA...", certs_len=8192)
> >>>> 2. snp_set_instance_certs(certs_addr point to "BBB...", certs_len=4097)
> >>>>
> >>>> If I understand correctly, on the second call we'll copy 4097 "BBB..."
> >>>> bytes into the to_certs buffer, but length will be (4096 + PAGE_SIZE -
> >>>> 1) & PAGE_MASK which will be 8192.
> >>>>
> >>>> Later when fetching the certs (for the extended report or in
> >>>> snp_get_instance_certs()) the user will get a buffer of 8192 bytes
> >>>> filled with 4097 BBBs and 4095 leftover AAAs.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe zero sev->snp_certs_data entirely before writing to it?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I agree it should be zeroed, at least if the previous length is
> >>> greater than the new length. Good catch.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Related question (not only for this patch) regarding snp_certs_data
> >>>> (host or per-instance): why is its size page-aligned at all? why is it
> >>>> limited by 16KB or 20KB? If I understand correctly, for SNP, this buffer
> >>>> is never sent to the PSP.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The buffer is meant to be copied into the guest driver following the
> >>> GHCB extended guest request protocol. The data to copy back are
> >>> expected to be in 4K page granularity.
> >>
> >> I don't think the data has to be in 4K page granularity. Why do you
> >> think it does?
> >>
> >
> > I looked at AMD publication 56421 SEV-ES Guest-Hypervisor Communication
> > Block Standardization (July 2022), page 37.  The table says:
> >
> > --------------
> >
> > NAE Event: SNP Extended Guest Request
> >
> > Notes:
> >
> > RAX will have the guest physical address of the page(s) to hold returned
> > data
> >
> > RBX
> > State to Hypervisor: will contain the number of guest contiguous
> > pages supplied to hold returned data
> > State from Hypervisor: on error will contain the number of guest
> > contiguous pages required to hold the data to be returned
> >
> > ...
> >
> > The request page, response page and data page(s) must be assigned to the
> > hypervisor (shared).
> >
> > --------------
> >
> >
> > According to this spec, it looks like the sizes are communicated as
> > number of pages in RBX.  So the data should start at a 4KB alignment
> > (this is verified in snp_handle_ext_guest_request()) and its length
> > should be 4KB-aligned, as Dionna noted.
>
> That only indicates how many pages are required to hold the data, but the
> hypervisor only has to copy however much data is present. If the data is
> 20 bytes, then you only have to copy 20 bytes. If the user supplied 0 for
> the number of pages, then the code returns 1 in RBX to indicate that one
> page is required to hold the 20 bytes.
>
> >
> > I see no reason (in the spec and in the kernel code) for the data length
> > to be limited to 16KB (SEV_FW_BLOB_MAX_SIZE) but I might be missing some
> > flow because Dionna ran into this limit.
>
> Correct, there is no limit. I believe that SEV_FW_BLOB_MAX_SIZE is a way
> to keep the memory usage controlled because data is coming from userspace
> and it isn't expected that the data would be larger than that.
>
> I'm not sure if that was in from the start or as a result of a review
> comment. Not sure what is the best approach is.

This was discussed a bit in the guest driver changes recently too that
SEV_FW_BLOB_MAX_SIZE is used in the guest driver code for the max cert
length. We discussed increasing the limit there after fixing the IV
reuse issue.

Maybe we could introduce SEV_CERT_BLOB_MAX_SIZE here to be more clear
there is no firmware based limit? Then we could switch the guest
driver to use that too. Dionna confirmed 4 pages is enough for our
current usecase, Dov would you recommend something larger to start?

>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> >
> >
> > -Dov
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -#define SEV_FW_BLOB_MAX_SIZE 0x4000  /* 16KB */
> >>>>> +#define SEV_FW_BLOB_MAX_SIZE 0x5000  /* 20KB */
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This has effects in drivers/crypto/ccp/sev-dev.c
> >>>>                                                                  (for
> >>>> example in alloc_snp_host_map).  Is that OK?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> No, this was a mistake of mine because I was using a bloated data
> >>> encoding that needed 5 pages for the GUID table plus 4 small
> >>> certificates. I've since fixed that in our user space code.
> >>> We shouldn't change this size and instead wait for a better size
> >>> negotiation protocol between the guest and host to avoid this awkward
> >>> hard-coding.
> >>>
> >>>

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