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Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDUMph262w5OSiSQi-BVcNRf2gN=PdmxYCKEuk-8aYhgA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:10:29 +0100
From:   Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To:     Roman Kagan <rkagan@...zon.de>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@...el.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@...wei.com>,
        Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [bug-report] possible s64 overflow in max_vruntime()

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 11:00, Roman Kagan <rkagan@...zon.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:21:17AM +0800, Chen Yu wrote:
> > On 2023-01-27 at 17:18:56 +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 12:44, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 07:31:02PM +0100, Roman Kagan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > All that only matters for small sleeps anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Something like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         sleep_time = U64_MAX;
> > > > > >         if (se->avg.last_update_time)
> > > > > >           sleep_time = cfs_rq_clock_pelt(cfs_rq) - se->avg.last_update_time;
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting, why not rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) - se->exec_start, as
> > > > > others were suggesting?  It appears to better match the notion of sleep
> > > > > wall-time, no?
> > > >
> > > > Should also work I suppose. cfs_rq_clock takes throttling into account,
> > > > but that should hopefully also not be *that* long, so either should
> > > > work.
> > >
> > > yes rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) should be fine too
> > >
> > > Another thing to take into account is the sleeper credit that the
> > > waking task deserves so the detection should be done once it has been
> > > subtracted from vruntime.
> > >
> > > Last point, when a nice -20 task runs on a rq, it will take a bit more
> > > than 2 seconds for the vruntime to be increased by more than 24ms (the
> > > maximum credit that a waking task can get) so threshold must be
> > > significantly higher than 2 sec. On the opposite side, the lowest
> > > possible weight of a cfs rq is 2 which means that the problem appears
> > > for a sleep longer or equal to 2^54 = 2^63*2/1024. We should use this
> > > value instead of an arbitrary 200 days
> > Does it mean any threshold between 2 sec and 2^54 nsec should be fine? Because
> > 1. Any task sleeps longer than 2 sec will get at most 24 ms(sysctl_sched_latency)
> >    'vruntime bonus' when enqueued.

This means that if a task nice -20 runs on cfs rq while your task is
sleeping 2seconds, the min vruntime of the cfs rq will increase by
24ms. If there are 2 nice -20 tasks then the min vruntime will
increase by 24ms after 4 seconds and so on ...

On the other side, a task nice 19 that runs 1ms will increase its
vruntime by around 68ms.

So if there is 1 task nice 19 with 11 tasks nice -20 on the same cfs
rq, the nice -19 one should run 1ms every 65 seconds and this also
means that the vruntime of task nice -19 should still be above
min_vruntime after sleeping 60 seconds. Of course this is even worse
with a child cgroup with the lowest weight (weight of 2 instead of 15)

Just to say that 60 seconds is not so far away and 2^54 should be better IMHO


> > 2. Although a low weight cfs rq run for 2^54 nsec could trigger the overflow,
> >    we can choose threshold lower than 2^54 to avoid any overflow.
>
> This matches my understanding too, so I went ahead with the value
> proposed by Peter (1 min) which looked sufficiently far away from either
> side.
>
> Roman.
>
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