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Message-ID: <032f9254-482a-4b97-8e7e-4afb1f78eb21@spud>
Date:   Thu, 9 Mar 2023 18:11:37 +0000
From:   Conor Dooley <conor@...nel.org>
To:     Emil Renner Berthing <emil.renner.berthing@...onical.com>
Cc:     Hal Feng <hal.feng@...rfivetech.com>, linux-clk@...r.kernel.org,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>,
        Michael Turquette <mturquette@...libre.com>,
        Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@...ive.com>,
        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/19] clk: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 always-on
 clock driver

On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:06:13PM +0100, Emil Renner Berthing wrote:
>  On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 10:44, Hal Feng <hal.feng@...rfivetech.com> wrote:

> > The AON clock driver provides clocks for gmac0 which is used frequently.
> > So I think it would be more convenient if we set "default y" here.

> You're right that if we default y for the ethernet driver then the aon
> clock/reset should also default y. Personally I don't think we should
> default y for every ethernet driver that might be used on some
> supported risc-v platform, but I see now that
> arch/riscv/config/defconfig already contains CONFIG_MACB=y,
> CONFIG_E1000E=y, CONFIG_R8169=y and CONFIG_MICROSEMI_PHY=y, so maybe
> I'm wrong or just too late.

The defconfig really needs a good bit of cleanup (one of the many things
that I am telling myself I will do as part of kconfig.socs cleanup).

w.r.t defconfig Palmer said it pretty well earlier on IRC: "defconfig
should be useful for kernel devs, which means it should boot on the
common dev boards".

IMO, that means enough to boot an initramfs and poke the thing to see
that it is alive, so: ethernet & serial, and the clocks/resets/pinctrl
stuff required to get those going can all be set to y in defconfig.

In the driver Kconfig entries, to me, it's more or less the same.
I guess, answer the question "Will your customer's board get to the
point where it can load a module ithout building this into the kernel?".
If the answer to that question is yes, then don't make it default y.

That's my €0.02!

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