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Date:   Fri, 24 Mar 2023 11:14:52 -0400
From:   Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@...fresne.ca>
To:     Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 2/4] media: videobuf2: Replace bufs array by a list

Le mercredi 22 mars 2023 à 17:01 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:50:52AM -0400, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > Hi Laurent,
> > 
> > Le lundi 20 mars 2023 à 01:33 +0200, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > > > The typical usage is that applications allocate N buffers with the
> > > > VIDIOC_REQBUFS ioctl, and in most cases that's all they use.
> > > 
> > > Note that once we get DELETE_BUF (or DELETE_BUFS) support I'd like to
> > > encourage applications to use the new API, and deprecate REQBUFS
> > > (dropping it isn't on my radar, as it would take forever before no
> > > userspace uses it anymore).
> > 
> > I was wondering if you can extend on this. I'm worried the count semantic might
> > prevent emulating it over create_bufs() ops, but if that works, did you meant to
> > emulate it so driver no longer have to implement reqbufs() if they have
> > create_bufs() ?
> 
> For drivers it should be fairly simply, as the reqbufs and create_bufs
> ioctl handlers should just point to the corresponding videobuf2 helpers.
> 
> What I meant is that I'd like to encourage userspace to use the
> VIDIOC_CREATE_BUFS ioctl instead of VIDIOC_REQBUFS.
> 

I'm not sure what rationale I can give implementer to "encourage" them to use a
more complex API that needs to copy over the FMT (which has just been set),
specially in the initial pre-allocation case. For most, CREATE_BUFS after SMT
will look like a very redundant and counter intuitive thing. Maybe you have a
more optimistic view on the matter ? Or you have a better idea how we could give
a meaning to having a fmt there on the initial case where the allocation matches
the queue FMT ?

Nicolas

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