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Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 15:30:11 -0700
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Like Xu <like.xu.linux@...il.com>
Cc: Anselm Busse <abusse@...zon.com>, dwmw@...zon.co.uk,
hborghor@...zon.de, sironi@...zon.de,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, x86@...nel.org,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] KVM support for Intel PMU v5 fixed function PMC bitmap
On Tue, May 16, 2023, Like Xu wrote:
> On 27/4/2023 5:53 pm, Anselm Busse wrote:
> > Starting with v5, the Intel PMU allows to indicate the available fixed
> > function PMCs not only through CPUID.0AH.EDX[4:0] but also through a
> > bit mask in CPUID.0AH.ECX. According to the SDM the OS can consider a
> > fix function PMC i supported for:
> >
> > CPUID.0AH.ECX[i] || (CPUID.0AH.EDX[4:0] > i)
>
> Yes, this feature is attractive for virtualization scenarios, and it gives
> flexibility to control which fixed counters are available or not in the
> virtual machine.
>
> However, currently KVM/x86 also supports Intel PMU V2, so I would expect
> that we will review the enablement code for v3 and v4 first.
Looking at v3, I think we probably want to skip straight to v5. I don't see a sane
way for KVM to emulate/virtualize AnyThread, which comes in v3 without a separate
CPUID feature flag. The SDM even calls out that it'd be a mess to deal with in a
virtualized environment. v5 introduces a CPUID bit to allow deprecating AnyThread,
i.e. would give KVM the ability to advertise a sane vPMU model to userspace.
Amusingly, KVM advertises "edx.split.anythread_deprecated = 1" for v1+, so maybe
we don't even need to do any enabling? At glance, I don't see any other changes
in v3 that require KVM support.
v4 looks to be an entirely different story than v3 though. So I agree with Like
that we need to enable v3 and v4 before advertising support for v5. And KVM *does*
need to actually advertise v5. Emulating the fixed counter bitmap without a way to
tell userspace about the functionality will create a mess.
TL;DR: If y'all want the shiny features in v5, please enable v3 and v4 first. I'm
totally fine taking a series to go all the way to v5 (might even be preferred due
to the AnyThread crud), but I don't want to advertise v5 without supporting the
required v3/v4 features.
> Ref: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/CALMp9eQVnk8gkOpX5AHhaCr8-5Fe=qNuX8PUP1Gv2H5FSYmHSw@mail.gmail.com/
I agree 100% with Jim, the bitmask stuff is firmly v5+.
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