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Date:   Thu, 3 Aug 2023 10:59:09 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Ze Gao <zegao2021@...il.com>
Cc:     Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ze Gao <zegao@...cent.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 4/5] sched, tracing: add to report task state in
 symbolic chars

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 04:33:51AM -0400, Ze Gao wrote:
> Internal representations of task state are likely to be changed
> or ordered, and reporting them to userspace without exporting
> them as part of API is basically wrong, which can easily break
> a userspace observability tool as kernel evolves. For example,
> perf suffers from this and still reports wrong states as of this
> writing.
> 
> OTOH, some masqueraded states like TASK_REPORT_IDLE and
> TASK_REPORT_MAX are also reported inadvertently, which confuses
> things even more and most userspace tools do not even take them
> into consideration.
> 
> So add a new variable in company with the old raw value to
> report task state in symbolic chars, which are self-explaining
> and no further translation is needed. Of course this does not
> break any userspace tool.
> 
> Note for PREEMPT_ACTIVE, we introduce 'p' to report it and use
> the old conventions for the rest.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Ze Gao <zegao@...cent.com>
> Reviewed-by: Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@...nel.org>
> Acked-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>

I'm not sure you've actually read any of the things I've written. I hate
this. Not going to happen.

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