linux-kernel - RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] mm/thp: fix "mm: thp: kill __transhuge_page

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Message-ID: <PUZP153MB063529C4869A7A666C275B23BE15A@PUZP153MB0635.APCP153.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Date:   Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:52:47 +0000
From:   Saurabh Singh Sengar <ssengar@...rosoft.com>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@...gle.com>
CC:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] mm/thp: fix "mm: thp: kill
 __transhuge_page_enabled()"



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 7:55 AM
> To: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@...gle.com>
> Cc: Saurabh Singh Sengar <ssengar@...rosoft.com>; Dan Williams
> <dan.j.williams@...el.com>; linux-mm@...ck.org; Yang Shi
> <shy828301@...il.com>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] mm/thp: fix "mm: thp: kill
> __transhuge_page_enabled()"
> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 05:04:47PM -0700, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> > > From a large folios perspective, filesystems do not implement a
> > > special handler.  They call filemap_fault() (directly or indirectly)
> > > from their
> > > ->fault handler.  If there is already a folio in the page cache
> > > ->which
> > > satisfies this fault, we insert it into the page tables (no matter
> > > what size it is).  If there is no folio, we call readahead to
> > > populate that index in the page cache, and probably some other indices
> around it.
> > > That's do_sync_mmap_readahead().
> > >
> > > If you look at that, you'll see that we check the VM_HUGEPAGE flag,
> > > and if set we align to a PMD boundary and read two PMD-size pages
> > > (so that we can do async readahead for the second page, if we're doing a
> linear scan).
> > > If the VM_HUGEPAGE flag isn't set, we'll use the readahead algorithm
> > > to decide how large the folio should be that we're reading into; if
> > > it's a random read workload, we'll stick to order-0 pages, but if
> > > we're getting good hit rate from the linear scan, we'll increase the
> > > size (although we won't go past PMD size)
> > >
> > > There's also the ->map_pages() optimisation which handles page
> > > faults locklessly, and will fail back to ->fault() if there's even a
> > > light breeze.  I don't think that's of any particular use in
> > > answering your question, so I'm not going into details about it.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I understand the code that's being modified well enough
> > > to be able to give you a straight answer to your question, but
> > > hopefully this is helpful to you.
> >
> > Thank you, this was great info. I had thought, incorrectly, that large
> > folio work would eventually tie into that ->huge_fault() handler
> > (should be dax_huge_fault() ?)
> >
> > If that's the case, then faulting file-backed, non-DAX memory as
> > (pmd-mapped-)THPs isn't supported at all, and no fault lies with the
> > aforementioned patches.
> 
> Ah, wait, hang on.  You absolutely can get a PMD mapping by calling into
> ->fault.  Look at how finish_fault() works:
> 
>         if (pmd_none(*vmf->pmd)) {
>                 if (PageTransCompound(page)) {
>                         ret = do_set_pmd(vmf, page);
>                         if (ret != VM_FAULT_FALLBACK)
>                                 return ret;
>                 }
> 
>                 if (vmf->prealloc_pte)
>                         pmd_install(vma->vm_mm, vmf->pmd, &vmf->prealloc_pte);
> 
> So if we find a large folio that is PMD mappable, and there's nothing at vmf-
> >pmd, we install a PMD-sized mapping at that spot.  If that fails, we install the
> preallocated PTE table at vmf->pmd and continue to trying set one or more
> PTEs to satisfy this page fault.
> 
> So why, you may be asking, do we have ->huge_fault.  Well, you should ask
> the clown who did commit b96375f74a6d ... in fairness to me,
> finish_fault() did not exist at the time, and the ability to return a PMD-sized
> page was added later.

Do you think we can restore this earlier behaviour of kernel to allow page fault
for huge pages via ->huge_fault.