linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH mm-unstable] mm/khugepaged: fix collapse_pte_mapped

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Date:   Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:28:06 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable] mm/khugepaged: fix collapse_pte_mapped_thp()
 versus uffd

On 22.08.23 16:39, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 4:51 AM Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023, Jann Horn wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:51 PM Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com> wrote:
>>>> Just for this case, take the pmd_lock() two steps earlier: not because
>>>> it gives any protection against this case itself, but because ptlock
>>>> nests inside it, and it's the dropping of ptlock which let the bug in.
>>>> In other cases, continue to minimize the pmd_lock() hold time.
>>>
>>> Special-casing userfaultfd like this makes me a bit uncomfortable; but
>>> I also can't find anything other than userfaultfd that would insert
>>> pages into regions that are khugepaged-compatible, so I guess this
>>> works?
>>
>> I'm as sure as I can be that it's solely because userfaultfd breaks
>> the usual rules here (and in fairness, IIRC Andrea did ask my permission
>> before making it behave that way on shmem, COWing without a source page).
>>
>> Perhaps something else will want that same behaviour in future (it's
>> tempting, but difficult to guarantee correctness); for now, it is just
>> userfaultfd (but by saying "_armed" rather than "_missing", I'm half-
>> expecting uffd to add more such exceptional modes in future).
> 
> Hm, yeah, sounds okay. (I guess we'd also run into this if we ever
> wanted to make it possible to reliably install PTE markers with
> madvise() or something like that, which might be nice for allowing
> userspace to create guard pages without unnecessary extra VMAs...)

I'm working on something similar that goes a bit further than just guard 
pages. It also installs PTE markers into page tables, inside existing 
large VMAs.

Initially, I'll only tackle anon VMAs, though.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb