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Date:   Tue, 05 Sep 2023 15:14:59 -0700
From:   Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>
To:     Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
Cc:     Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, x86@...nel.org,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, luto@...nel.org, bp@...en8.de,
        dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com, hpa@...or.com, mingo@...hat.com,
        juri.lelli@...hat.com, vincent.guittot@...aro.org,
        willy@...radead.org, mgorman@...e.de, peterz@...radead.org,
        rostedt@...dmis.org, tglx@...utronix.de, jon.grimm@....com,
        bharata@....com, raghavendra.kt@....com,
        boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com, konrad.wilk@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing


Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com> writes:

> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 11:49:49AM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> This series adds a multi-page clearing primitive, clear_pages(),
>> which enables more effective use of x86 string instructions by
>> advertising the real region-size to be cleared.
>>
>> Region-size can be used as a hint by uarchs to optimize the
>> clearing.
>>
>> Also add allow_resched() which marks a code-section as allowing
>> rescheduling in the irqentry_exit path. This allows clear_pages()
>> to get by without having to call cond_sched() periodically.
>> (preempt_model_full() already handles this via
>> irqentry_exit_cond_resched(), so we handle this similarly for
>> preempt_model_none() and preempt_model_voluntary().)
>>
>> Performance
>> ==
>>
>> With this demand fault performance gets a decent increase:
>>
>>   *Milan*     mm/clear_huge_page   x86/clear_huge_page   change
>>                           (GB/s)                (GB/s)
>>
>>   pg-sz=2MB                14.55                 19.29    +32.5%
>>   pg-sz=1GB                19.34                 49.60   +156.4%
>>
>> Milan (and some other AMD Zen uarchs tested) take advantage of the
>> hint to elide cacheline allocation for pg-sz=1GB. The cut-off for
>> this optimization seems to be at around region-size > LLC-size so
>> the pg-sz=2MB load still allocates cachelines.
>>
>
> Have you benchmarked clzero? It is an AMD-specific instruction issuing
> non-temporal stores. It is definitely something to try out for 1G pages.

Thanks for the suggestion. Been a little while, but see the numbers here:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220606203725.1313715-15-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/

> One would think rep stosq has to be at least not worse since the CPU is
> explicitly told what to do and is free to optimize it however it sees
> fit, but the rep prefix has a long history of underperforming.

I agree that historically REP variants have been all over the place.
But, if you look at the numbers, REP; STOS and CLZERO are pretty close,
at least for current generation of AMD uarchs.

Now, current uarch performance is no guarantee for future uarchs, but
if the kernel uses REP; STOS in performance paths, then hopefully
they'll also shows up in internal CPU regression benchmarks which might
mean that the high performance persists.

That said, I think using CLZERO/MOVNT is a good idea -- though, as a
fallback option or where it is better to send an explicit hint while
say, clearing a 2MB region.


Thanks
Ankur

> I'm not saying it is going to be better, but that this should be tested,
> albeit one can easily argue this can be done at a later date.
>
>
> I would do it myself but my access to AMD CPUs is limited.
>
>>
>>   *Icelakex*  mm/clear_huge_page   x86/clear_huge_page   change
>>                           (GB/s)                (GB/s)
>>
>>   pg-sz=2MB                 9.19                 12.94   +40.8%
>>   pg-sz=1GB                 9.36                 12.97   +38.5%
>>
>> Icelakex sees a decent improvement in performance but for both
>> region-sizes does continue to allocate cachelines.
>>
>>
>> Negative: there is, a downside to clearing in larger chunks: the
>> current approach clears page-at-a-time, narrowing towards
>> the faulting subpage. This has better cache characteristics for
>> some sequential access workloads where subpages near the faulting
>> page have a greater likelihood of access.
>>
>> I'm not sure if there are real cases which care about this workload
>> but one example is the vm-scalability/case-anon-w-seq-hugetlb test.
>> This test starts a process for each online CPU, with each process
>> writing sequentially to its set of hugepages.
>>
>> The bottleneck here is the memory pipe and so the improvement in
>> stime is limited, and because the clearing is less cache-optimal
>> now, utime suffers from worse user cache misses.
>>
>>   *Icelakex*               mm/clear_huge_page  x86/clear_huge_page  change
>>   (tasks=128, mem=4GB/task)
>>
>>   stime                        286.8 +- 3.6%      243.9 +- 4.1%     -14.9%
>>   utime                        497.7 +- 4.1%      553.5 +- 2.0%     +11.2%
>>   wall-clock                     6.9 +- 2.8%        7.0 +- 1.4%     + 1.4%
>>
>>
>>   *Milan*                  mm/clear_huge_page  x86/clear_huge_page  change
>>   (mem=1GB/task, tasks=512)
>>
>>   stime                        501.3 +- 1.4%      498.0 +- 0.9%      -0.5%
>>   utime                        298.7 +- 1.1%      335.0 +- 2.2%     +12.1%
>>   wall-clock                     3.5 +- 2.8%        3.8 +- 2.6%      +8.5%
>>
>> The same test performs better if we have a smaller number of processes,
>> since there is more backend BW available, and thus the improved stime
>> compensates for the worse utime.
>>
>> This could be improved by using more circuitous chunking (somewhat
>> like this:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220606203725.1313715-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/).
>> But I'm not sure if it is worth doing. Opinions?
>>
>> Patches
>> ==
>>
>> Patch 1, 2, 3:
>>   "mm/clear_huge_page: allow arch override for clear_huge_page()",
>>   "mm/huge_page: separate clear_huge_page() and copy_huge_page()",
>>   "mm/huge_page: cleanup clear_/copy_subpage()"
>> are minor. The first one allows clear_huge_page() to have an
>> arch specific version and the other two are mechanical cleanup
>> patches.
>>
>> Patches 3, 4, 5:
>>   "x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing",
>>   "x86/clear_page: add clear_pages()",
>>   "x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing"
>> define the x86 specific clear_pages() and clear_huge_pages().
>>
>> Patches 6, 7, 8:
>>   "sched: define TIF_ALLOW_RESCHED"
>>   "irqentry: define irqentry_exit_allow_resched()"
>> which defines allow_resched() to demarcate preemptible sections.
>>
>> This gets used in patch 9:
>>   "x86/clear_huge_page: make clear_contig_region() preemptible".
>>
>> Changelog:
>>
>> v2:
>>   - Addressed review comments from peterz, tglx.
>>   - Removed clear_user_pages(), and CONFIG_X86_32:clear_pages()
>>   - General code cleanup
>>
>> Also at:
>>   github.com/terminus/linux clear-pages.v2
>>
>> Comments appreciated!
>>
>> Ankur Arora (9):
>>   mm/clear_huge_page: allow arch override for clear_huge_page()
>>   mm/huge_page: separate clear_huge_page() and copy_huge_page()
>>   mm/huge_page: cleanup clear_/copy_subpage()
>>   x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for multi-page clearing
>>   x86/clear_page: add clear_pages()
>>   x86/clear_huge_page: multi-page clearing
>>   sched: define TIF_ALLOW_RESCHED
>>   irqentry: define irqentry_exit_allow_resched()
>>   x86/clear_huge_page: make clear_contig_region() preemptible
>>
>>  arch/x86/include/asm/page_64.h     |  27 +++--
>>  arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h |   2 +
>>  arch/x86/lib/clear_page_64.S       |  52 ++++++---
>>  arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c          |  59 ++++++++++
>>  include/linux/entry-common.h       |  13 +++
>>  include/linux/sched.h              |  30 +++++
>>  kernel/entry/common.c              |  13 ++-
>>  kernel/sched/core.c                |  32 ++---
>>  mm/memory.c                        | 181 +++++++++++++++++------------
>>  9 files changed, 297 insertions(+), 112 deletions(-)
>>
>> --
>> 2.31.1
>>
>>


--
ankur

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