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Message-ID: <5017b9fa177f4deaa5d481a5d8914ab4@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date:   Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:51:36 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     'David Howells' <dhowells@...hat.com>
CC:     Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@....de>,
        Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io>,
        "Matthew Wilcox" <willy@...radead.org>,
        Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@...gle.com>,
        David Gow <davidgow@...gle.com>,
        "linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
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        "linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kunit-dev@...glegroups.com" <kunit-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
        "David Hildenbrand" <david@...hat.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 9/9] iov_iter: Add benchmarking kunit tests for
 UBUF/IOVEC

From: David Howells
> Sent: 15 September 2023 11:10
> 
> David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM> wrote:
> 
> > > Add kunit tests to benchmark 256MiB copies to a UBUF iterator and an IOVEC
> > > iterator.  This attaches a userspace VM with a mapped file in it
> > > temporarily to the test thread.
> >
> > Isn't that going to be completely dominated by the cache fills
> > from memory?
> 
> Yes...  but it should be consistent in the amount of time that consumes since
> no device drivers are involved.  I can try adding the same folio to the
> anon_file multiple times - it might work especially if I don't put the pages
> on the LRU (if that's even possible) - but I wanted separate pages for the
> extraction test.

You could also just not do the copy!
Although you need (say) asm volatile("\n",:::"memory") to
stop it all being completely optimised away.
That might show up a difference in the 'out_of_line' test
where 15% on top on the data copies is massive - it may be
that the data cache behaviour is very different for the
two cases.

...
> > Some measurements can be made using readv() and writev()
> > on /dev/zero and /dev/null.
> 
> Forget /dev/null; that doesn't actually engage any iteration code.  The same
> for writing to /dev/zero.  Reading from /dev/zero does its own iteration thing
> rather than using iterate_and_advance(), presumably because it checks for
> signals and resched.

Using /dev/null does exercise the 'copy iov from user' code.
Last time I looked at that the 32bit compat code was faster than
the 64bit code on x86!

	David

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