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Message-ID: <20231102121717.GL17433@black.fi.intel.com>
Date:   Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:17:17 +0200
From:   Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
Cc:     Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>, bhelgaas@...gle.com,
        andreas.noever@...il.com, michael.jamet@...el.com,
        YehezkelShB@...il.com, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
        Alexander.Deucher@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] PCI: Ignore PCIe ports used for tunneling in
 pcie_bandwidth_available()

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:07:39AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:31:08PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 08:14:31PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 11/1/2023 17:52, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> 
> > > > Lukas' brief intro in
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230925141930.GA21033@wunner.de/ really
> > > > helped me connect a few dots, because things like
> > > > Documentation/admin-guide/thunderbolt.rst assume we already know those
> > > > details.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for sharing that.  If I move the detection mechanism as I suggested
> > > above I'll reference some of that as well in the commit message to explain
> > > what exactly a tunneled port is.
> > 
> > I'm not sure it makes sense to explain from the zero all this stuff that
> > people can easily look up from the corresponding spec, such as PCIe or
> > USB.
> 
> I don't know if it needs to be in the commit log.
> 
> I mentioned thunderbolt.rst because the text at
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/thunderbolt.rst?id=v6.6#n6
> assumes that we know the terms "host router", "host controller",
> "router", "tunnel", "connection manager", and I don't think that's a
> good assumption in that documentation.
> 
> A little bit of introduction based on Lukas' text could improve that.

All these are explained in the USB4 spec, I wonder if we should just
link that in the document rather than expaining all of them there.
Anyway, point taken, thanks for the feedback!

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