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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2023 09:00:57 +0000
From: "Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@...zon.co.uk>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
"Allister, Jack" <jalliste@...zon.co.uk>,
"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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CC: "Wang, Jue" <juew@...zon.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH] x86: intel_epb: Add earlyparam option to keep bias at performance
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
> Sent: 04 December 2023 17:45
> To: Allister, Jack <jalliste@...zon.co.uk>; tglx@...utronix.de;
> mingo@...hat.com; bp@...en8.de; dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com;
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> Cc: Durrant, Paul <pdurrant@...zon.co.uk>; Wang, Jue <juew@...zon.com>;
> Usama Arif <usama.arif@...edance.com>; x86@...nel.org; Hans de Goede
> <hdegoede@...hat.com>; Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>; Rafael J.
> Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PATCH] x86: intel_epb: Add earlyparam option to
> keep bias at performance
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> On 12/4/23 09:28, Jack Allister wrote:
> > There are certain scenarios where it may be intentional that the EPB was
> > set at to 0/ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_PERFORMANCE on kernel boot. For example, in
> > data centers a kexec/live-update of the kernel may be performed
> regularly.
> >
> > Usually this live-update is time critical and defaulting of the bias
> back
> > to ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_NORMAL may actually be detrimental to the overall
> > update time if processors' time to ramp up/boost are affected.
> >
> > This patch introduces a kernel command line "intel_epb_keep_performance"
> > which will leave the EPB at performance if during the restoration code
> path
> > it is detected as such.
>
> Folks, while I appreciate the effort to upstream thing that you have
> kept out of tree up until now, I don't think this is the right way.
>
> In general new kernel command-line options are a last resort.
>
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/intel_epb.c
> b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/intel_epb.c
> > index e4c3ba91321c..0c7dd092f723 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/intel_epb.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/intel_epb.c
> > @@ -50,7 +50,8 @@
> > * the OS will do that anyway. That sometimes is problematic, as it
> may cause
> > * the system battery to drain too fast, for example, so it is better
> to adjust
> > * it on CPU bring-up and if the initial EPB value for a given CPU is
> 0, the
> > - * kernel changes it to 6 ('normal').
> > + * kernel changes it to 6 ('normal'). This however is overridable via
> > + * intel_epb_keep_performance if required.
> > */
> >
> > static DEFINE_PER_CPU(u8, saved_epb);
> > @@ -75,6 +76,8 @@ static u8 energ_perf_values[] = {
> > [EPB_INDEX_POWERSAVE] = ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_POWERSAVE,
> > };
> >
> > +static bool intel_epb_keep_performance __read_mostly;
> > +
> > static int intel_epb_save(void)
> > {
> > u64 epb;
> > @@ -107,8 +110,12 @@ static void intel_epb_restore(void)
> > */
> > val = epb & EPB_MASK;
> > if (val == ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_PERFORMANCE) {
> > - val = energ_perf_values[EPB_INDEX_NORMAL];
> > - pr_warn_once("ENERGY_PERF_BIAS: Set to 'normal',
> was 'performance'\n");
> > + if (!intel_epb_keep_performance) {
> > + val = energ_perf_values[EPB_INDEX_NORMAL];
> > + pr_warn_once("ENERGY_PERF_BIAS: Set to
> 'normal', was 'performance'\n");
> > + } else {
> > + pr_warn_once("ENERGY_PERF_BIAS: Kept at
> 'performance', no change\n");
> > + }
> > }
>
> This is fundamentally a hack.
>
Actually, it's working round a hack. The existing coment in the code just above that hunk is:
101 /*
102 * Because intel_epb_save() has not run for the current CPU yet,
103 * it is going online for the first time, so if its EPB value is
104 * 0 ('performance') at this point, assume that it has not been
105 * initialized by the platform firmware and set it to 6
106 * ('normal').
107 */
> It sounds like you want the system default to be at
> ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_PERFORMANCE. You also mentioned that this was done "on
> kernel boot". How did you do that, exactly? Shouldn't that "on kernel
> boot" action be reflected over here rather than introducing another
> command-line parameter?
>
The problem is that this will take effect even on a kexec and hence it is throttling
a system that set ENERGY_PERF_BIAS_PERFORMANCE prior to the kexec. We use kexec to
live update the host kernel of our systems whilst leaving virtual machines running.
This resetting of the perf bias is having a very detrimental effect on the downtime
of our systems across the live update - about a 7 fold increase.
Paul
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