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Message-ID: <CAHbLzkobPC3S0Wb97jjwQZoJhO7O+LkEkoPoEeYFAKGYk=XAaA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:14:40 -0800
From: Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
Cc: Jeffrey Vander Stoep <jeffv@...gle.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...nel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@...riel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...com,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: align larger anonymous mappings on THP boundaries
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:30 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:25 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:58 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:56 PM Yang Shi <shy828301@...il.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 11:16 AM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:09 AM Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 16. 01. 24, 12:53, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 09. 08. 22, 20:24, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > > > > >> Align larger anonymous memory mappings on THP boundaries by
> > > > > > >> going through thp_get_unmapped_area if THPs are enabled for
> > > > > > >> the current process.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> With this patch, larger anonymous mappings are now THP aligned.
> > > > > > >> When a malloc library allocates a 2MB or larger arena, that
> > > > > > >> arena can now be mapped with THPs right from the start, which
> > > > > > >> can result in better TLB hit rates and execution time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This appears to break 32bit processes on x86_64 (at least). In
> > > > > > > particular, 32bit kernel or firefox builds in our build system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reverting this on top of 6.7 makes it work again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Downstream report:
> > > > > > > https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1218841
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So running:
> > > > > > > pahole -J --btf_gen_floats -j --lang_exclude=rust
> > > > > > > --skip_encoding_btf_inconsistent_proto --btf_gen_optimized .tmp_vmlinux.btf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > crashes or errors out with some random errors:
> > > > > > > [182671] STRUCT idr's field 'idr_next' offset=128 bit_size=0 type=181346
> > > > > > > Error emitting field
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > strace shows mmap() fails with ENOMEM right before the errors:
> > > > > > > 1223 mmap2(NULL, 5783552, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
> > > > > > > MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0 <unfinished ...>
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > 1223 <... mmap2 resumed>) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate
> > > > > > > memory)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note the .tmp_vmlinux.btf above can be arbitrary, but likely large
> > > > > > > enough. For reference, one is available at:
> > > > > > > https://decibel.fi.muni.cz/~xslaby/n/btf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This works around the problem, of course (but is a band-aid, not a fix):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- a/mm/mmap.c
> > > > > > +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> > > > > > @@ -1829,7 +1829,7 @@ get_unmapped_area(struct file *file, unsigned long
> > > > > > addr, unsigned long len,
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > pgoff = 0;
> > > > > > get_area = shmem_get_unmapped_area;
> > > > > > - } else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE)) {
> > > > > > + } else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE) &&
> > > > > > !in_32bit_syscall()) {
> > > > > > /* Ensures that larger anonymous mappings are THP
> > > > > > aligned. */
> > > > > > get_area = thp_get_unmapped_area;
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thp_get_unmapped_area() does not take care of the legacy stuff..
> > > > >
> > > > > This change also affects the entropy of allocations. With this patch
> > > > > Android test [1] started failing and it requires only 8 bits of
> > > > > entropy. The feedback from our security team:
> > > > >
> > > > > 8 bits of entropy is already embarrassingly low, but was necessary for
> > > > > 32 bit ARM targets with low RAM at the time. It's definitely not
> > > > > acceptable for 64 bit targets.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the report. Is it 32 bit only or 64 bit is also impacted?
> > > > If I understand the code correctly, it expects the address allocated
> > > > by malloc() is kind of randomized, right?
> > >
> > > Yes, correct, the test expects a certain level of address randomization.
> > > The test failure was reported while running kernel_virt_x86_64 target
> > > (Android emulator on x86), so it does impact 64bit targets.
> >
> > IIUC this breaks the "expectation" for randomized addresses returned
> > by malloc(), but it doesn't break any real Android application, right?
> > So this is a security concern instead of a real regression.
>
> How is making a system move vulnerabile not a real regression?
>
> >
> > I think we can make this opt-in with a knob. Anyone who outweighs
> > security could opt this feature out. However I'm wondering whether
> > Android should implement a general address randomization mechanism
> > instead of depending on "luck" if you do care about it.
>
> This is not depending on luck. This is checking for possible
> vulnerabilities in the system.
I don't think the kernel guarantees address randomization if I read
the kernel code correctly although it may look like it has a certain
level of randomization somehow.
If I remember correctly PaX has an ASLR patch, but it is out of tree.
> I admit I'm not a security expert, so I'm looping in Jeff and Kees to chime in.
> Thanks,
> Suren.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Could this change be either reverted or made optional (opt-in/opt-out)?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Suren.
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/main/+/main:cts/tests/aslr/src/AslrMallocTest.cpp;l=130
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > js
> > > > > > suse labs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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