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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 13:49:28 +0200
From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee@...nel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@...omium.org>,
Crutcher Dunnavant <crutcher+kernel@...astacks.com>,
Juergen Quade <quade@...r.de>,
David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] lib/vsprintf: Implement spprintf() to catch
truncated strings
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 04:09:53PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> There is an ongoing effort to replace the use of {v}snprintf() variants
> with safer alternatives - for a more in depth view, see Jon's write-up
> on LWN [0] and/or Alex's on the Kernel Self Protection Project [1].
>
> Whist executing the task, it quickly became apparent that the initial
> thought of simply s/snprintf/scnprintf/ wasn't going to be adequate for
> a number of cases. Specifically ones where the caller needs to know
> whether the given string ends up being truncated. This is where
> spprintf() comes in, since it takes the best parts of both of the
> aforementioned variants. It has the testability of truncation of
> snprintf() and returns the number of Bytes *actually* written, similar
> to scnprintf(), making it a very programmer friendly alternative.
>
> Here's some examples to show the differences:
>
> Success: No truncation - all 9 Bytes successfully written to the buffer
>
> ret = snprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
> ret = scnprintf(buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
> ret = spprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789"); // ret = 9
>
> Failure: Truncation - only 9 of 10 Bytes written; '-' is truncated
>
> ret = snprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 12
>
> Reports: "12 Bytes would have been written if buf was large enough"
> Issue: Too easy for programmers to assume ret is Bytes written
>
> ret = scnprintf(buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 9
>
> Reports: "9 Bytes actually written"
> Issue: Not testable - returns 9 on success AND failure (see above)
>
> ret = spprintf (buf, 10, "%s", "123456789---"); // ret = 10
>
> Reports: "Data provided is too large to fit in the buffer"
> Issue: No tangible impact: No way to tell how much data was lost
>
> Since spprintf() only reports the total size of the buffer, it's easy to
> test if they buffer overflowed since if we include the compulsory '\0',
> only 9 Bytes additional Bytes can fit, so the return of 10 informs the
> caller of an overflow. Also, if the return data is plugged straight
> into an additional call to spprintf() after the occurrence of an
> overflow, no out-of-bounds will occur:
>
> int size = 10;
> char buf[size];
> char *b = buf;
>
> ret = spprintf(b, size, "1234");
> size -= ret;
> b += ret;
> // ret = 4 size = 6 buf = "1234\0"
>
> ret = spprintf(b, size, "5678");
> size -= ret;
> b += ret;
> // ret = 4 size = 2 buf = "12345678\0"
>
> ret = spprintf(b, size, "9***");
> size -= ret;
> b += ret;
> // ret = 2 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
>
> Since size is now 0, further calls result in no changes of state.
>
> ret = spprintf(b, size, "----");
> size -= ret;
> b += ret;
> // ret = 0 size = 0 buf = "123456789\0"
> [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/69419/
> [1] https://github.com/KSPP/linux/issues/105
Link: ... [0]
Link: ... [1]
> Signed-off-by: Lee Jones <lee@...nel.org>
..
I'm a bit late in this discussion, but the commit message doesn't spit a single
word on why seq_buf() approach can't be used in those cases?
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
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