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Message-ID: <ZenQ15upgjUGD5tY@google.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:36:07 -0800
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>, Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@...el.com>, 
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@....com>, Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@...ux.intel.com>, 
	Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@...ux.intel.com>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@...gle.com>, 
	David Matlack <dmatlack@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Use synthetic page fault error code
 to indicate private faults

On Thu, Mar 07, 2024, Xu Yilun wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 06:45:30AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > can be switched between private and shared, e.g. will return false for
> > kvm_arch_has_private_mem().
> > 
> > And KVM _can't_ sanely use private/shared memslots for SEV(-ES), because it's
> > impossible to intercept implicit conversions by the guest, i.e. KVM can't prevent
> > the guest from encrypting a page that KVM thinks is private, and vice versa.
> 
> Is it because there is no #NPF for RMP violation?

Yep, there is no RMP, thus no way for the host to express its view of shared vs.
private to hardware.  As a result, KVM can't block conversions, and the given
state of a page is completely unkown at any given time.  E.g. when memory is
reclaimed from an SEV(-ES) guest, KVM has to assume that the page is encrypted
and thus needs to be flushed (see sev_guest_memory_reclaimed()).

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