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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:24:59 +1100
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Add support for suppressing warning backtraces

Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> writes:
> On 3/14/24 07:37, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On 3/14/24 06:36, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>>> Hi Günter,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:03 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
>>>> Some unit tests intentionally trigger warning backtraces by passing bad
>>>> parameters to kernel API functions. Such unit tests typically check the
>>>> return value from such calls, not the existence of the warning backtrace.
>>>>
>>>> Such intentionally generated warning backtraces are neither desirable
>>>> nor useful for a number of reasons.
>>>> - They can result in overlooked real problems.
>>>> - A warning that suddenly starts to show up in unit tests needs to be
>>>>    investigated and has to be marked to be ignored, for example by
>>>>    adjusting filter scripts. Such filters are ad-hoc because there is
>>>>    no real standard format for warnings. On top of that, such filter
>>>>    scripts would require constant maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> One option to address problem would be to add messages such as "expected
>>>> warning backtraces start / end here" to the kernel log.  However, that
>>>> would again require filter scripts, it might result in missing real
>>>> problematic warning backtraces triggered while the test is running, and
>>>> the irrelevant backtrace(s) would still clog the kernel log.
>>>>
>>>> Solve the problem by providing a means to identify and suppress specific
>>>> warning backtraces while executing test code. Support suppressing multiple
>>>> backtraces while at the same time limiting changes to generic code to the
>>>> absolute minimum. Architecture specific changes are kept at minimum by
>>>> retaining function names only if both CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE and
>>>> CONFIG_KUNIT are enabled.
>>>>
>>>> The first patch of the series introduces the necessary infrastructure.
>>>> The second patch introduces support for counting suppressed backtraces.
>>>> This capability is used in patch three to implement unit tests.
>>>> Patch four documents the new API.
>>>> The next two patches add support for suppressing backtraces in drm_rect
>>>> and dev_addr_lists unit tests. These patches are intended to serve as
>>>> examples for the use of the functionality introduced with this series.
>>>> The remaining patches implement the necessary changes for all
>>>> architectures with GENERIC_BUG support.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your series!
>>>
>>> I gave it a try on m68k, just running backtrace-suppression-test,
>>> and that seems to work fine.
>>>
>>>> Design note:
>>>>    Function pointers are only added to the __bug_table section if both
>>>>    CONFIG_KUNIT and CONFIG_DEBUG_BUGVERBOSE are enabled to avoid image
>>>>    size increases if CONFIG_KUNIT=n. There would be some benefits to
>>>>    adding those pointers all the time (reduced complexity, ability to
>>>>    display function names in BUG/WARNING messages). That change, if
>>>>    desired, can be made later.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately this also increases kernel size in the CONFIG_KUNIT=m
>>> case (ca. 80 KiB for atari_defconfig), making it less attractive to have
>>> kunit and all tests enabled as modules in my standard kernel.
>>>
>> 
>> Good point. Indeed, it does. I wanted to avoid adding a configuration option,
>> but maybe I should add it after all. How about something like this ?
>> 
>> +config KUNIT_SUPPRESS_BACKTRACE
>> +       bool "KUnit - Enable backtrace suppression"
>> +       default y
>> +       help
>> +         Enable backtrace suppression for KUnit. If enabled, backtraces
>> +         generated intentionally by KUnit tests can be suppressed. Disable
>> +         to reduce kernel image size if image size is more important than
>> +         suppression of backtraces generated by KUnit tests.
>
> Any more comments / feedback on this ? Otherwise I'll introduce the
> above configuration option in v2 of the series.
>
> In this context, any suggestions if it should be enabled or disabled by
> default ? I personally think it would be more important to be able to
> suppress backtraces, but I understand that others may not be willing to
> accept a ~1% image size increase with CONFIG_KUNIT=m unless
> KUNIT_SUPPRESS_BACKTRACE is explicitly disabled.

Please enable it by default.

There are multiple CI systems that will benefit from it, whereas the
number of users enabling KUNIT in severely spaced constrainted
environments is surely small - perhaps just Geert ;).

cheers

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