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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:58:23 +0000
From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@....com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, peterz@...radead.org,
 juri.lelli@...hat.com, mingo@...hat.com, dietmar.eggemann@....com,
 vschneid@...hat.com, vincent.guittot@...aro.org, Johannes.Thumshirn@....com,
 adrian.hunter@...el.com, ulf.hansson@...aro.org, andres@...razel.de,
 asml.silence@...il.com, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-block@...r.kernel.org, io-uring@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] cpufreq/schedutil: Remove iowait boost

On 18/03/2024 17:08, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 5:40 PM Christian Loehle
> <christian.loehle@....com> wrote:
>>
>> On 18/03/2024 14:07, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:17 PM Christian Loehle
>>> <christian.loehle@....com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The previous commit provides a new cpu_util_cfs_boost_io interface for
>>>> schedutil which uses the io boosted utilization of the per-task
>>>> tracking strategy. Schedutil iowait boosting is therefore no longer
>>>> necessary so remove it.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering about the cases when schedutil is used without EAS.
>>>
>>> Are they still going to be handled as before after this change?
>>
>> Well they should still get boosted (under the new conditions) and according
>> to my tests that does work.
> 
> OK
> 
>> Anything in particular you're worried about?
> 
> It is not particularly clear to me how exactly the boost is taken into
> account without EAS.

So a quick rundown for now, I'll try to include something along the lines in
future versions then, too.
Every task_struct carries an io_boost_level in the range of [0..8] with it.
The boost is in units of utilization (w.r.t SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE, independent
of CPU the task might be currently enqueued on).
The boost is taken into account for:
1. sugov frequency selection with
io_boost = cpu_util_io_boost(sg_cpu->cpu);
util = max(util, io_boost);

The io boost of all tasks enqueued on the rq will be max-aggregated with the
util here. (See cfs_rq->io_boost_tasks).

2. Task placement, for EAS in feec();
Otherwise select_idle_sibling() / select_idle_capacity() to ensure the CPU
satisfies the requested io_boost of the task to be enqueued.

Determining the io_boost_level is a bit more involved than with sugov's
implementation and happens in dequeue_io_boost(), hopefully that part
is reasonably understandable from the code.

Hope that helps.

Kind Regards,
Christian


> 
>> So in terms of throughput I see similar results with EAS and CAS+sugov.
>> I'm happy including numbers in the cover letter for future versions, too.
>> So far my intuition was that nobody would care enough to include them
>> (as long as it generally still works).
> 
> Well, IMV clear understanding of the changes is more important.


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