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Message-ID: <fbef883e-23f8-41b9-852b-c52d18816559@notapiano>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2024 19:29:17 -0400
From: Nícolas F. R. A. Prado <nfraprado@...labora.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
Cc: rafael@...nel.org,
Manaf Meethalavalappu Pallikunhi <quic_manafm@...cinc.com>,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@....com>,
"open list:THERMAL" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "thermal: core: Don't update trip points inside
the hysteresis range"
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:24:24PM +0100, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> It has been reported the commit cf3986f8c01d3 introduced a regression
> when the temperature is wavering in the hysteresis region. The
> mitigation stops leading to an uncontrolled temperature increase until
> reaching the critical trip point.
>
> Here what happens:
>
> * 'throttle' is when the current temperature is greater than the trip
> point temperature
> * 'target' is the mitigation level
> * 'passive' is positive when there is a mitigation, zero otherwise
> * these values are computed in the step_wise governor
>
> Configuration:
>
> trip point 1: temp=95°C, hyst=5°C (passive)
> trip point 2: temp=115°C, hyst=0°C (critical)
> governor: step_wise
>
> 1. The temperature crosses the way up the trip point 1 at 95°C
>
> - trend=raising
> - throttle=1, target=1
> - passive=1
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=115°C
>
> 2. The temperature decreases but stays in the hysteresis region at
> 93°C
>
> - trend=dropping
> - throttle=0, target=0
> - passive=1
>
> Before cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=95°C
>
> After cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=115°C
>
> 3. The temperature increases a bit but stays in the hysteresis region
> at 94°C (so below the trip point 1 temp 95°C)
>
> - trend=raising
> - throttle=0, target=0
> - passive=1
>
> Before cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=95°C
>
> After cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=115°C
>
> 4. The temperature decreases but stays in the hysteresis region at
> 93°C
>
> - trend=dropping
> - throttle=0, target=THERMAL_NO_TARGET
> - passive=0
>
> Before cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=95°C
>
> After cf3986f8c01d3
> - set_trips: low=90°C, high=115°C
>
> At this point, the 'passive' value is zero, there is no mitigation,
> the temperature is in the hysteresis region, the next trip point is
> 115°C. As 'passive' is zero, the timer to monitor the thermal zone is
> disabled. Consequently if the temperature continues to increase, no
> mitigation will happen and it will reach the 115°C trip point and
> reboot.
>
> Before the optimization, the high boundary would have been 95°C, thus
> triggering the mitigation again and rearming the polling timer.
>
> The optimization make sense but given the current implementation of
> the step_wise governor collaborating via this 'passive' flag with the
> core framework it can not work.
>
> From a higher perspective it seems like there is a problem between the
> governor which sets a variable to be used by the core framework. That
> sounds akward and it would make much more sense if the core framework
> controls the governor and not the opposite. But as the devil hides in
> the details, there are some subtilities to be addressed before.
>
> Elaborating those would be out of the scope this changelog. So let's
> stay simple and revert the change first to fixup all broken mobile
> platforms.
>
> This reverts commit cf3986f8c01d355490d0ac6024391b989a9d1e9d.
>
> This revert applies on top of v6.9-rc1.
>
> Fixes: cf3986f8c01d3 ("thermal: core: Don't update trip points inside the hysteresis range")
> Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
> Reported-by: Manaf Meethalavalappu Pallikunhi <quic_manafm@...cinc.com>
> Cc: Nícolas F. R. A. Prado <nfraprado@...labora.com>
As mentioned in the commit, the issue is elsewhere, but given the original
commit was an optimization to prevent unnecessary trip point updates, and that
it seems to have caused a regression, sounds reasonable to revert at least while
a proper fix isn't found.
Acked-by: Nícolas F. R. A. Prado <nfraprado@...labora.com>
Only thing is you might want to add a cc: stable tag to guarantee it is
backported (AFAIR Fixes: doesn't guarantee backport), even more so given there
are conflicts.
Thanks,
Nícolas
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