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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:04:52 -0700
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/4] rust: add abstraction for `struct page`
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 03:56:11PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:08:40PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> > On 18.04.24 20:52, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 08:59:20AM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > >> + /// Runs a piece of code with a raw pointer to a slice of this page, with bounds checking.
> > >> + ///
> > >> + /// If `f` is called, then it will be called with a pointer that points at `off` bytes into the
> > >> + /// page, and the pointer will be valid for at least `len` bytes. The pointer is only valid on
> > >> + /// this task, as this method uses a local mapping.
> > >> + ///
> > >> + /// If `off` and `len` refers to a region outside of this page, then this method returns
> > >> + /// `EINVAL` and does not call `f`.
> > >> + ///
> > >> + /// # Using the raw pointer
> > >> + ///
> > >> + /// It is up to the caller to use the provided raw pointer correctly. The pointer is valid for
> > >> + /// `len` bytes and for the duration in which the closure is called. The pointer might only be
> > >> + /// mapped on the current thread, and when that is the case, dereferencing it on other threads
> > >> + /// is UB. Other than that, the usual rules for dereferencing a raw pointer apply: don't cause
> > >> + /// data races, the memory may be uninitialized, and so on.
> > >> + ///
> > >> + /// If multiple threads map the same page at the same time, then they may reference with
> > >> + /// different addresses. However, even if the addresses are different, the underlying memory is
> > >> + /// still the same for these purposes (e.g., it's still a data race if they both write to the
> > >> + /// same underlying byte at the same time).
> > >> + fn with_pointer_into_page<T>(
> > >> + &self,
> > >> + off: usize,
> > >> + len: usize,
> > >> + f: impl FnOnce(*mut u8) -> Result<T>,
> > >
> > > I wonder whether the way to go here is making this function signature:
> > >
> > > fn with_slice_in_page<T> (
> > > &self,
> > > off: usize,
> > > len: usize,
> > > f: iml FnOnce(&UnsafeCell<[u8]>) -> Result<T>
> > > ) -> Result<T>
> > >
> > > , because in this way, it makes a bit more clear that what memory that
> > > `f` can access, in other words, the users are less likely to use the
> > > pointer in a wrong way.
> > >
> > > But that depends on whether `&UnsafeCell<[u8]>` is the correct
> > > abstraction and the ecosystem around it: for example, I feel like these
> > > two functions:
> > >
> > > fn len(slice: &UnsafeCell<[u8]>) -> usize
> > > fn as_ptr(slice: &UnsafeCell<[u8]>) -> *mut u8
> > >
> > > should be trivially safe, but I might be wrong. Again this is just for
> > > future discussion.
> >
> > I think the "better" type would be `&[UnsafeCell<u8>]`. Since there you
> > can always access the length.
> >
>
> Hmm.. here is the thing, having `&UnsafeCell<[u8]>` means having a `*mut
> [u8]>`, and it should always be safe to get a "length" of `*mut [u8]`,
> right? I haven't found any method doing that, but the length should be
> just a part of fat pointer, so I think getting that is a defined
> behavior. But maybe I'm missing something.
>
Hmm... but I guess one of the problems of this approach, is how to
construct a `&UnsafeCell<[u8]>` from a pointer and length...
Regards,
Boqun
> > Another question would be if page allows for uninitialized bits, in that
> > case, we would need `&[Opaque<u8>]`.
> >
>
> Yes, or `&Opaque<[u8>]`.
>
> Regards,
> Boqun
>
> > But I don't remember how to get a valid raw pointer from
> > `&[UnsafeCell<u8>]`.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Benno
> >
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