Message-ID: <0e13f8b643bb7afcc7c4f0d62741cf9fda66c1e0.camel@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 13:31:55 +0200
From: Nuno Sá <noname.nuno@...il.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>, "Gradinariu, Ramona"
	 <Ramona.Gradinariu@...log.com>
Cc: Ramona Gradinariu <ramona.bolboaca13@...il.com>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org"
	 <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-iio@...r.kernel.org"
	 <linux-iio@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-doc@...r.kernel.org"
	 <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>, "devicetree@...r.kernel.org"
	 <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>, "corbet@....net" <corbet@....net>, 
	"conor+dt@...nel.org"
	 <conor+dt@...nel.org>, "krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org"
	 <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org>, "robh@...nel.org" <robh@...nel.org>, 
	"Sa, Nuno" <Nuno.Sa@...log.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] iio: adis16480: add support for adis16545/7 families

On Mon, 2024-04-29 at 20:40 +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 13:17:42 +0000
> "Gradinariu, Ramona" <Ramona.Gradinariu@...log.com> wrote:
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nuno Sá <noname.nuno@...il.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 10:59 AM
> > > To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>; Ramona Gradinariu
> > > <ramona.bolboaca13@...il.com>
> > > Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; linux-iio@...r.kernel.org; linux-
> > > doc@...r.kernel.org; devicetree@...r.kernel.org; corbet@....net;
> > > conor+dt@...nel.org; krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@...aro.org; robh@...nel.org;
> > > Gradinariu, Ramona <Ramona.Gradinariu@...log.com>; Sa, Nuno
> > > <Nuno.Sa@...log.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] iio: adis16480: add support for adis16545/7 families
> > > 
> > > [External]
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2024-04-28 at 16:25 +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:42:09 +0300
> > > > Ramona Gradinariu <ramona.bolboaca13@...il.com> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > The ADIS16545 and ADIS16547 are a complete inertial system that
> > > > > includes a triaxis gyroscope and a triaxis accelerometer.
> > > > > The serial peripheral interface (SPI) and register structure provide a
> > > > > simple interface for data collection and configuration control.
> > > > > 
> > > > > These devices are similar to the ones already supported in the driver,
> > > > > with changes in the scales, timings and the max spi speed in burst
> > > > > mode.
> > > > > Also, they support delta angle and delta velocity readings in burst
> > > > > mode, for which support was added in the trigger handler.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Nuno Sá <nuno.sa@...log.com>  
> > > > 
> > > > What is Nuno's relationship to this patch?  You are author and the sender
> > > > which is fine, but in that case you need to make Nuno's involvement explicit.
> > > > Perhaps a Co-developed-by or similar is appropriate?
> > > >  
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Ramona Gradinariu <ramona.gradinariu@...log.com>  
> > > > A few comments inline.  Biggest one is I'd like a clear statement of why you
> > > > can't do a burst of one type, then a burst of other.  My guess is that the
> > > > transition is very time consuming?  If so, that is fine, but you should be
> > > > able
> > > > to let available_scan_masks handle the disjoint channel sets.  
> > > 
> > > Yeah, the burst message is a special spi transfer that brings you all of the
> > > channels data at once but for the accel/gyro you need to explicitly configure
> > > the chip to either give you the "normal vs "delta" readings. Re-configuring the
> > > chip and then do another burst would destroy performance I think. We could
> > > do
> > > the manual readings as we do in adis16475 for chips not supporting burst32.
> > > But
> > > in the burst32 case those manual readings should be minimal while in here we
> > > could have to do 6 of them which could also be very time consuming...
> > > 
> > > Now, why we don't use available_scan_masks is something I can't really
> > > remember
> > > but this implementation goes in line with what we have in the adis16475
> > > driver.
> > > 
> > > - Nuno Sá
> > >   
> > 
> > Thank you Nuno for all the additional explanations.
> > Regarding the use of available_scan_masks, the idea is to have any possible
> > combination for accel, gyro, temp and timestamp channels or delta angle, delta 
> > velocity, temp and  timestamp channels. There are a lot of combinations for 
> > this and it does not seem like a good idea to write them all manually. That is 
> > why adis16480_update_scan_mode is used for checking the correct channels 
> > selection.
> 
> If you are using bursts, the data is getting read anyway - which is the main
> cost here. The real question becomes what are you actually saving by supporting all
> the combinations of the the two subsets of channels in the pollfunc?
> Currently you have to pick the channels out and repack them, if pushing them all
> looks to me like a mempcy and a single value being set (unconditionally).

> Then it's a question of what the overhead of the channel demux in the core is.
> What you pass out of the driver via iio_push_to_buffers*()
> is not what ends up in the buffer if you allow the IIO core to do data demuxing
> for you - that is enabled by providing available_scan_masks.  At buffer
> start up the demux code computes a fairly optimal set of copies to repack
> the incoming data to match with what channels the consumer (here probably
> the kfifo on the way to userspace) is expecting.
> 
> That demux adds a small overhead but it should be small as long
> as the channels wanted aren't pathological (i.e. every other one).
> 
> Advantage is the driver ends up simpler and in the common case of turn
> on all the channels (why else did you buy a device with those measurements
> if you didn't want them!) the demux is zerocopy so effectively free which
> is not going to be the case for the bitmap walk and element copy in the
> driver.
> 

Maybe my younger me was smarter but reading again the validation of the scan mask
code (when available_scan_masks is available), I'm not sure why we're not using them.
I think that having one mask with delta values + temperature and another one with
normal + temperature would be enough for what we want in here. The code in
adis16480_update_scan_mode() could then be simpler I think.

Now, what I'm still not following is the straight memcpy(). I may be missing
something but the demux code only appears to kick in when we have compound masks
resulting of multiple buffers being enabled. So I'm not seeing how we can get away
without picking the channels and place them correctly in the buffer passed to IIO?
What we could do in the future (for a similar device) is to maybe have a fastpath in
the handler. Something like:

if (bitmap_full(scan_mask, masklength)) {
	memcpy(iio_buff, burst + data_off, size);
	goto push_to_iio;
}

Right now we would always have to do some "manual" work as the temperature scan index
does not match the position on the received burst data.

Some devices with the burst32 (which I think do not exist in this driver) would also
make the plain memcpy() harder.

- Nuno Sá

Powered by blists - more mailing lists