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Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 15:49:33 +0000
From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
To: "seanjc@...gle.com" <seanjc@...gle.com>
CC: "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"sagis@...gle.com" <sagis@...gle.com>, "isaku.yamahata@...il.com"
	<isaku.yamahata@...il.com>, "Aktas, Erdem" <erdemaktas@...gle.com>, "Zhao,
 Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>, "dmatlack@...gle.com" <dmatlack@...gle.com>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, "pbonzini@...hat.com"
	<pbonzini@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Bug the VM if kvm_zap_gfn_range() is
 called for TDX

On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 08:34 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2024, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> > When virtualizing some CPU features, KVM uses kvm_zap_gfn_range() to zap
> > guest mappings so they can be faulted in with different PTE properties.
> > 
> > For TDX private memory this technique is fundamentally not possible.
> > Remapping private memory requires the guest to "accept" it, and also the
> > needed PTE properties are not currently supported by TDX for private
> > memory.
> > 
> > These CPU features are:
> > 1) MTRR update
> > 2) CR0.CD update
> > 3) Non-coherent DMA status update
> 
> Please go review the series that removes these disaster[*], I suspect it would
> literally have taken less time than writing this changelog :-)
> 
> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240309010929.1403984-1-seanjc@google.com

We have one additional detail for TDX in that KVM will have different cache
attributes between private and shared. Although implementation is in a later
patch, that detail has an affect on whether we need to support zapping in the
basic MMU support.

> 
> > 4) APICV update
> > 
> > Since they cannot be supported, they should be blocked from being
> > exercised by a TD. In the case of CRO.CD, the feature is fundamentally not
> > supported for TDX as it cannot see the guest registers. For APICV
> > inhibit it in future changes.
> > 
> > Guest MTRR support is more of an interesting case. Supported versions of
> > the TDX module fix the MTRR CPUID bit to 1, but as previously discussed,
> > it is not possible to fully support the feature. This leaves KVM with a
> > few options:
> >  - Support a modified version of the architecture where the caching
> >    attributes are ignored for private memory.
> >  - Don't support MTRRs and treat the set MTRR CPUID bit as a TDX Module
> >    bug.
> > 
> > With the additional consideration that likely guest MTRR support in KVM
> > will be going away, the later option is the best. Prevent MTRR MSR writes
> > from calling kvm_zap_gfn_range() in future changes.
> > 
> > Lastly, the most interesting case is non-coherent DMA status updates.
> > There isn't a way to reject the call. KVM is just notified that there is a
> > non-coherent DMA device attached, and expected to act accordingly. For
> > normal VMs today, that means to start respecting guest PAT. However,
> > recently there has been a proposal to avoid doing this on selfsnoop CPUs
> > (see link). On such CPUs it should not be problematic to simply always
> > configure the EPT to honor guest PAT. In future changes TDX can enforce
> > this behavior for shared memory, resulting in shared memory always
> > respecting guest PAT for TDX. So kvm_zap_gfn_range() will not need to be
> > called in this case either.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, this will result in different cache attributes between
> > private and shared memory, as private memory is always WB and cannot be
> > changed by the VMM on current TDX modules. But it can't really be helped
> > while also supporting non-coherent DMA devices.
> > 
> > Since all callers will be prevented from calling kvm_zap_gfn_range() in
> > future changes, report a bug and terminate the guest if other future
> > changes to KVM result in triggering kvm_zap_gfn_range() for a TD.
> > 
> > For lack of a better method currently, use kvm_gfn_shared_mask() to
> > determine if private memory cannot be zapped (as in TDX, the only VM type
> > that sets it).
> > 
> > Link:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240309010929.1403984-6-seanjc@google.com/
> > Signed-off-by: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>
> > ---
> > TDX MMU Part 1:
> >  - Remove support from "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Zap leafs only for private memory"
> >  - Add this KVM_BUG_ON() instead
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c | 11 ++++++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > index d5cf5b15a10e..808805b3478d 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > @@ -6528,8 +6528,17 @@ void kvm_zap_gfn_range(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t
> > gfn_start, gfn_t gfn_end)
> >  
> >         flush = kvm_rmap_zap_gfn_range(kvm, gfn_start, gfn_end);
> >  
> > -       if (tdp_mmu_enabled)
> > +       if (tdp_mmu_enabled) {
> > +               /*
> > +                * kvm_zap_gfn_range() is used when MTRR or PAT memory
> > +                * type was changed.  TDX can't handle zapping the private
> > +                * mapping, but it's ok because KVM doesn't support either
> > of
> > +                * those features for TDX. In case a new caller appears, BUG
> > +                * the VM if it's called for solutions with private aliases.
> > +                */
> > +               KVM_BUG_ON(kvm_gfn_shared_mask(kvm), kvm);
> 
> Please stop using kvm_gfn_shared_mask() as a proxy for "is this TDX".  Using a
> generic name quite obviously doesn't prevent TDX details for bleeding into
> common
> code, and dancing around things just makes it all unnecessarily confusing.

Ok, yep on the general point.

> 
> If we can't avoid bleeding TDX details into common code, my vote is to bite
> the
> bullet and simply check vm_type.

In this case the generic property is the inability to re-fault in private memory
whenever we want. However the reason we can get away with just not  is because
TDX won't support the operations that uses this function. Otherwise, we could
zap only the shared half of the memory (depending on the intention of the
caller).

To me KVM_BUG_ON()s seem a little less bad to check vm type specifically. It
doesn't affect the functional part of the code. So all together, I'd lean
towards vm_type in this case.

> 
> This KVM_BUG_ON() also should not be in the tdp_mmu_enabled path.  Yeah, yeah,
> TDX is restricted to the TDP MMU, but there's no reason to bleed that detail
> all
> over the place.
> 
> 

Right.

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