linux-kernel - Re: Regression in 6.1.81: Missing memory in pmem device

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Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 19:22:10 +0200
From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
To: "Chaney, Ben" <bchaney@...mai.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, 
	"gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, 
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	"tglx@...utronix.de" <tglx@...utronix.de>, "Tottenham, Max" <mtottenh@...mai.com>, 
	"Hunt, Joshua" <johunt@...mai.com>, "Galaxy, Michael" <mgalaxy@...mai.com>
Subject: Re: Regression in 6.1.81: Missing memory in pmem device

On Thu, 16 May 2024 at 16:59, Chaney, Ben <bchaney@...mai.com> wrote:
>
> The 'nokaslr' flag does work around this issue, but using it has a few downsides.
>
> First, we would like the security benefit provided be ASLR.

We wouldn't need to disable virtual KASLR only physical KASLR.

> Also, this imposes a restriction on what memmaps are possible. It would then be required to have them offset from the beginning of the memory.
>

Relying on the KASLR code to move the kernel away from the base of RAM
is rather risky - even when KASLR is in effect, the logic will fall
back to placement at the base of memory if physical randomization is
not possible for any reason.

> I also think there are a few other features that may be impacted by this, that were not addressed by the patch. crashkernel and pstore both probably need physical kaslr disabled as well.
>

Please reply to the patch if you have any comments on it. Thanks.