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Message-ID: <CAJD7tkYDjmMLnH_2sQuuMLE0FE5YqZEppNsprCnm5RdaSkGEBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 12:49:35 -0700
From: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
To: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@...il.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Usama Arif <usamaarif642@...il.com>,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, chengming.zhou@...ux.dev, linux-mm@...ck.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...a.com,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>, Huang Ying <ying.huang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: store zero pages to be swapped out in a bitmap
On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 12:18 PM Nhat Pham <nphamcs@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 9:24 AM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 5:27 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchgorg> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 11:19:07AM +0100, Usama Arif wrote:
> > > > Approximately 10-20% of pages to be swapped out are zero pages [1].
> > > > Rather than reading/writing these pages to flash resulting
> > > > in increased I/O and flash wear, a bitmap can be used to mark these
> > > > pages as zero at write time, and the pages can be filled at
> > > > read time if the bit corresponding to the page is set.
> > > > With this patch, NVMe writes in Meta server fleet decreased
> > > > by almost 10% with conventional swap setup (zswap disabled).
> > > >
> > > > [1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20171018104832epcms5p1b2232e2236258de3d03d1344dde9fce0@epcms5p1/
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Usama Arif <usamaarif642@...il.com>
> > >
> > > This is awesome.
> > >
> > > > ---
> > > > include/linux/swap.h | 1 +
> > > > mm/page_io.c | 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > > mm/swapfile.c | 10 ++++++
> > > > 3 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
> > > > index a11c75e897ec..e88563978441 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/swap.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
> > > > @@ -299,6 +299,7 @@ struct swap_info_struct {
> > > > signed char type; /* strange name for an index */
> > > > unsigned int max; /* extent of the swap_map */
> > > > unsigned char *swap_map; /* vmalloc'ed array of usage counts */
> > > > + unsigned long *zeromap; /* vmalloc'ed bitmap to track zero pages */
> > >
> > > One bit per swap slot, so 1 / (4096 * 8) = 0.003% static memory
> > > overhead for configured swap space. That seems reasonable for what
> > > appears to be a fairly universal 10% reduction in swap IO.
> > >
> > > An alternative implementation would be to reserve a bit in
> > > swap_map. This would be no overhead at idle, but would force
> > > continuation counts earlier on heavily shared page tables, and AFAICS
> > > would get complicated in terms of locking, whereas this one is pretty
> > > simple (atomic ops protect the map, swapcache lock protects the bit).
> > >
> > > So I prefer this version. But a few comments below:
> >
> > I am wondering if it's even possible to take this one step further and
> > avoid reclaiming zero-filled pages in the first place. Can we just
> > unmap them and let the first read fault allocate a zero'd page like
> > uninitialized memory, or point them at the zero page and make them
> > read-only, or something? Then we could free them directly without
> > going into the swap code to begin with.
> >
> > That's how I thought about it initially when I attempted to support
> > only zero-filled pages in zswap. It could be a more complex
> > implementation though.
>
> We can aim for this eventually, but yeah the implementation will be
> more complex. We'll need to be careful in handling shared zero pages,
> synchronizing accesses and maintaining reference counts. I think we
> will need to special-case swap cache and swap map for these zero pages
> (a ghost zero swap device perhaps), or reinvent the wheel to manage
> these pieces of information.
Isn't there an existing mechanism to have read-only mappings pointing
at the shared zero page, and do COW? Can't we just use that?
I think this is already what we do for mapped areas that were never
written in some cases (see do_anonymous_page()), so it would be just
like that (i.e. as if the mappings were never written). Someone with
more familiarity with this would know better though.
>
> Not impossible, but annoying :) For now, I think Usama's approach is
> clean enough and does the job.
Yeah, I am not against Usama's approach at all. I just want us to
consider both options before we commit to one. If they are close
enough in complexity, it may be worth avoiding swap completely.
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