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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:37:06 +0200
From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>, Amadeusz
Sławiński <amadeuszx.slawinski@...ux.intel.com>, Allen
Ballway <ballway@...omium.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Brady
Norander <bradynorander@...il.com>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>, Ranjani Sridharan
<ranjani.sridharan@...ux.intel.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
linux-sound@...r.kernel.org, Mark Hasemeyer <markhas@...omium.org>, Andy
Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>, Cezary Rojewski
<cezary.rojewski@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: intel-dsp-config: Fix Azulle Access 4 quirk detection
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:09:34 +0200,
Guenter Roeck wrote:
>
> On 6/26/24 00:04, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/25/24 23:37, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 10:35:31AM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 6/21/24 08:15, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
> >>>> On 6/20/2024 9:27 PM, Allen Ballway wrote:
> >>>>> I filed a bug and after sharing the requested information it looks
> >>>>> like this device won't work on SOF without vendor support. Given this,
> >>>>> would the original patch returning this device to using HDAudio be
> >>>>> reasonable, or is there an preferred alternative to force this device
> >>>>> into using HDAudio?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And can you share link to the issue on mailing list, so someone reading
> >>>> this thread in the future doesn't have to guess where it is? ;)
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/4981
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what to do with this configuration.
> >>> We added a quirk to force SOF to be used for ES8336 devices. It worked
> >>> for some, but not for others. Now we have quite a few ES8336-based
> >>> platforms that are broken with zero support from the vendor, with
> >>> obscure I2C/GPIO/clk issues.
> >>> Are we going to tag each one of them and say 'not supported, use HDMI only'?
> >>> That's pushing a bit the notion of quirk...It would generate an endless
> >>> stream of patches. The alternative is to do nothing and ask that those
> >>> platforms revert to HDMI audio only with a kernel parameter. That latter
> >>> alternative has my vote.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Given that this apparently does not work for many ES8336 devices,
> >> would it make more sense to disable SOF support for those by default
> >> and _enable_ them with a kernel parameter ?
> >
> > Some configurations work, so we would break them.
> >
>
> Yes, but for others it is a regression,
Is it? The speaker should have never worked for them without SOF,
either.
Takashi
> so arguably the change to force-enable
> SOF caused a regression and should either be reverted or fixed such that all
> previously working configurations still work (even more so since fixing
> the problem one-by-one as affected systems are found is being rejected).
>
> Thanks,
> Guenter
>
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