linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: intel-dsp-config: Fix Azulle Access 4 quirk detection

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Message-ID: <a55f1344-80e2-4107-8c01-e56495d4b324@roeck-us.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:09:00 -0700
From: Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
Cc: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.intel.com>,
 Amadeusz Sławiński
 <amadeuszx.slawinski@...ux.intel.com>, Allen Ballway <ballway@...omium.org>,
 LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Brady Norander
 <bradynorander@...il.com>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
 Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>,
 Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@...ux.intel.com>,
 Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, linux-sound@...r.kernel.org,
 Mark Hasemeyer <markhas@...omium.org>,
 Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
 Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda: intel-dsp-config: Fix Azulle Access 4 quirk
 detection

On 6/26/24 06:37, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:09:34 +0200,
> Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>
>> On 6/26/24 00:04, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/25/24 23:37, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 10:35:31AM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/21/24 08:15, Amadeusz Sławiński wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/20/2024 9:27 PM, Allen Ballway wrote:
>>>>>>> I filed a bug and after sharing the requested information it looks
>>>>>>> like this device won't work on SOF without vendor support. Given this,
>>>>>>> would the original patch returning this device to using HDAudio be
>>>>>>> reasonable, or is there an preferred alternative to force this device
>>>>>>> into using HDAudio?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And can you share link to the issue on mailing list, so someone reading
>>>>>> this thread in the future doesn't have to guess where it is? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/4981
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what to do with this configuration.
>>>>> We added a quirk to force SOF to be used for ES8336 devices. It worked
>>>>> for some, but not for others. Now we have quite a few ES8336-based
>>>>> platforms that are broken with zero support from the vendor, with
>>>>> obscure I2C/GPIO/clk issues.
>>>>> Are we going to tag each one of them and say 'not supported, use HDMI only'?
>>>>> That's pushing a bit the notion of quirk...It would generate an endless
>>>>> stream of patches. The alternative is to do nothing and ask that those
>>>>> platforms revert to HDMI audio only with a kernel parameter. That latter
>>>>> alternative has my vote.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given that this apparently does not work for many ES8336 devices,
>>>> would it make more sense to disable SOF support for those by default
>>>> and _enable_ them with a kernel parameter ?
>>>
>>> Some configurations work, so we would break them.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but for others it is a regression,
> 
> Is it?  The speaker should have never worked for them without SOF,
> either.
> 

Interesting comment, especially in the context of the reasons given for this patch
to be rejected.

Guenter