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Message-ID: <ZvPfmAp_2mDkI3ss@boqun-archlinux>
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 03:02:00 -0700
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@...weicloud.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, rcu@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	lkmm@...r.kernel.org, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@...nel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
	Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, maged.michael@...il.com,
	Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] hazptr: Add initial implementation of hazard
 pointers

Hi Jonas,

On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 09:41:15AM +0200, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 9/17/2024 um 4:33 PM schrieb Boqun Feng:
> > +static inline void *__hazptr_tryprotect(hazptr_t *hzp,
> > +					void *const *p,
> > +					unsigned long head_offset)
> > +{
> > +	void *ptr;
> > +	struct callback_head *head;
> > +
> > +	ptr = READ_ONCE(*p);
> > +
> > +	if (ptr == NULL)
> > +		return NULL;
> > +
> > +	head = (struct callback_head *)(ptr + head_offset);
> > +
> > +	WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, head);
> > +	smp_mb();
> > +
> > +	ptr = READ_ONCE(*p); // read again
> > +
> > +	if (ptr + head_offset != head) { // pointer changed
> > +		WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, NULL);  // reset hazard pointer
> > +		return NULL;
> > +	} else
> > +		return ptr;
> > +}
> 
> There is a subtle potential for ABA issues here.
> 
> If the compiler replaces 'return ptr;' with 'return head - head_offset;',
> then you do not have an address dependency from the second read.
> 
> In this case, in ABA, the first read can read from a stale store, then the
> second read reads the same value from a newer store but only establishes
> control-dependency based synchronization with that store; any reads from
> *ptr could be speculatively executed before doing the second ptr =
> READ_ONCE(*p).
> 
> Therefore you could read the object state before it is properly
> reinitialized by the second store.
> 

Thanks for taking a look, and nice find!

> I'm not sure what the most efficient fix is or if you just want to gamble
> that "the compiler will never do that".
> I guess either READ_ONCE(ptr) or a compiler barrier before return ptr might
> do it?
> 

I think the root cause of this is that compiler can replace 'ptr' with
'head - head_offset' based on pointer value comparison. A fix would be
converting pointer to unsigned long and doing the comparison:

	if ((unsigned long)ptr + head_offset != (unsigned long)head) {
		WRITE_ONCE(*hzp, NULL);
		return NULL;
	} else
		return ptr;

because of the conversion, compilers lose the information of pointer
equality, therefore cannot replace 'ptr' with 'head - head_offset'. Of
course, if we are really worried about compilers being too "smart", we
can always do the comparison in asm code, then compilers don't know
anything of the equality between 'ptr' and 'head - head_offset'.

Regards,
boqun

> Have fun,
>    jonas
> 

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