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Message-ID: <CAMj1kXG3bwMGpArYNUm-qMO7PPgb3--wy5kp-3Ks2Uv9M479xg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:07:00 +0200
From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>, 
	Clement LE GOFFIC <clement.legoffic@...s.st.com>, Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>, 
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>, Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>, 
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, 
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-stm32@...md-mailman.stormreply.com, 
	Antonio Borneo <antonio.borneo@...s.st.com>
Subject: Re: Crash on armv7-a using KASAN

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 17:26, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:44:56PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 16:35, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:22:20PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 16:00, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 03:51:02PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28 PM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 03:19:49PM +0200, Clement LE GOFFIC wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think what's happening here is that when switching from prev to next
> > > > > > > in the scheduler, we switch to next's mm before we actually switch to
> > > > > > > next's register state, and there's a transient window where prev is
> > > > > > > executed using next's mm. AFAICT we don't map prev's KASAN stack shadow
> > > > > > > into next's mm anywhere, and so inlined KASAN_STACK checks recursively
> > > > > > > fault on this until we switch to the overflow stack.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > > Yeah it looks like a spot-on identification of the problem, I can try to
> > > > > > think about how we could fix this if I can reproduce it, I keep trying
> > > > > > to provoke the crash :/
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a bit grotty -- AFAICT you'd either need to prefault in the
> > > > > specific part of the vmalloc space when switching tasks, or we'd need to
> > > > > preallocate all the shared vmalloc tables at the start of time so that
> > > > > they're always up-to-date.
> > > > >
> > > > > While we could disable KASAN_STACK, that's only going to mask the
> > > > > problem until this happens for any other vmalloc shadow...
> > > >
> > > > Is the other vmalloc shadow not covered by the ordinary on-demand faulting?
> > >
> > > It depends on what the vmalloc memory is used for; if it's anything else
> > > used in the fault handling path, that'll fault recursively, and it's
> > > possible that'll happen indirectly via other instrumentation.
> > >
> > > > When I implemented VMAP_STACK for ARM, I added an explicit load from
> > > > the new stack while still running from the old one (in __switch_to) so
> > > > that the ordinary faulting code can deal with it. Couldn't we do the
> > > > same for the vmalloc shadow of the new stack?
> > >
> > > We could do something similar, but note that it's backwards: we need to
> > > ensure that the old/current stack shadow will be mapped in the new mm.
> > >
> > > So the usual fault handling can't handle that as-is, because you need to
> > > fault-in pages for an mm which isn't yet in use. That logic could be
> > > factored out and shared, though.
> >
> > Not sure I follow you here. The crash is in the kernel, no?
>
> Yep; I'm referring to the vmalloc space being lazily faulted-in and
> copied from init_mm into the active pgd under do_translation_fault().
>
> Looking some more, I don't see how VMAP_STACK guarantees that the
> old/active stack is mapped in the new mm when switching from the old mm
> to the new mm (which happens before __switch_to()).
>
> Either I'm missing something, or we have a latent bug. Maybe we have
> some explicit copying/prefaulting elsewhere I'm missing?
>

We bump the vmalloc_seq counter for that. Given that the top-level
page table can only gain entries covering the kernel space, this
should be sufficient for the old task's stack to be mapped in the new
task's page tables.

> What happens when switching between two tasks whose stacks happen to be
> in distinct sub-trees of the vmalloc tables?
>
> > So there is only a single vmalloc space where all the mappings should
> > reside, but each process has its own copy of the top level page table,
> > which needs to be synced up when it goes stale.
>
> Yep -- the problem is when we can safely do that syncing up, since the
> lazy syncing in do_translation_fault() can't safely be used to sync
> anything that's used during do_translation_fault(), including the stack,
> etc.
>

Indeed.

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