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Message-ID: <Zw6Jk74-d0mhR0jx@J2N7QTR9R3.cambridge.arm.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:26:11 +0100
From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	Clement LE GOFFIC <clement.legoffic@...s.st.com>,
	Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>,
	Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-stm32@...md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	Antonio Borneo <antonio.borneo@...s.st.com>
Subject: Re: Crash on armv7-a using KASAN

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:44:56PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 16:35, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:22:20PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 16:00, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 03:51:02PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 12:28 PM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 03:19:49PM +0200, Clement LE GOFFIC wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think what's happening here is that when switching from prev to next
> > > > > > in the scheduler, we switch to next's mm before we actually switch to
> > > > > > next's register state, and there's a transient window where prev is
> > > > > > executed using next's mm. AFAICT we don't map prev's KASAN stack shadow
> > > > > > into next's mm anywhere, and so inlined KASAN_STACK checks recursively
> > > > > > fault on this until we switch to the overflow stack.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > > Yeah it looks like a spot-on identification of the problem, I can try to
> > > > > think about how we could fix this if I can reproduce it, I keep trying
> > > > > to provoke the crash :/
> > > >
> > > > It's a bit grotty -- AFAICT you'd either need to prefault in the
> > > > specific part of the vmalloc space when switching tasks, or we'd need to
> > > > preallocate all the shared vmalloc tables at the start of time so that
> > > > they're always up-to-date.
> > > >
> > > > While we could disable KASAN_STACK, that's only going to mask the
> > > > problem until this happens for any other vmalloc shadow...
> > >
> > > Is the other vmalloc shadow not covered by the ordinary on-demand faulting?
> >
> > It depends on what the vmalloc memory is used for; if it's anything else
> > used in the fault handling path, that'll fault recursively, and it's
> > possible that'll happen indirectly via other instrumentation.
> >
> > > When I implemented VMAP_STACK for ARM, I added an explicit load from
> > > the new stack while still running from the old one (in __switch_to) so
> > > that the ordinary faulting code can deal with it. Couldn't we do the
> > > same for the vmalloc shadow of the new stack?
> >
> > We could do something similar, but note that it's backwards: we need to
> > ensure that the old/current stack shadow will be mapped in the new mm.
> >
> > So the usual fault handling can't handle that as-is, because you need to
> > fault-in pages for an mm which isn't yet in use. That logic could be
> > factored out and shared, though.
> 
> Not sure I follow you here. The crash is in the kernel, no?

Yep; I'm referring to the vmalloc space being lazily faulted-in and
copied from init_mm into the active pgd under do_translation_fault().

Looking some more, I don't see how VMAP_STACK guarantees that the
old/active stack is mapped in the new mm when switching from the old mm
to the new mm (which happens before __switch_to()).

Either I'm missing something, or we have a latent bug. Maybe we have
some explicit copying/prefaulting elsewhere I'm missing?

What happens when switching between two tasks whose stacks happen to be
in distinct sub-trees of the vmalloc tables?

> So there is only a single vmalloc space where all the mappings should
> reside, but each process has its own copy of the top level page table,
> which needs to be synced up when it goes stale.

Yep -- the problem is when we can safely do that syncing up, since the
lazy syncing in do_translation_fault() can't safely be used to sync
anything that's used during do_translation_fault(), including the stack,
etc.

Mark.

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