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Message-ID: <20241104152934.GA129622-robh@kernel.org>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 09:29:34 -0600
From: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>
Cc: Ciprian Costea <ciprianmarian.costea@....nxp.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, linux-rtc@...r.kernel.org,
	devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	NXP S32 Linux Team <s32@....com>,
	Christophe Lizzi <clizzi@...hat.com>,
	Alberto Ruiz <aruizrui@...hat.com>,
	Enric Balletbo <eballetb@...hat.com>,
	Bogdan-Gabriel Roman <bogdan-gabriel.roman@....com>,
	Ghennadi Procopciuc <ghennadi.procopciuc@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] dt-bindings: rtc: add schema for NXP S32G2/S32G3
 SoCs

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 06:08:23PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 15/10/2024 16:27:17-0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 04:15:40PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 01:51:30PM +0300, Ciprian Costea wrote:
> > > > From: Ciprian Marian Costea <ciprianmarian.costea@....nxp.com>
> > > > 
> > > > This patch adds the dt-bindings for NXP S32G2/S32G3 SoCs RTC driver.
> > > > 
> > > > Co-developed-by: Bogdan-Gabriel Roman <bogdan-gabriel.roman@....com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Bogdan-Gabriel Roman <bogdan-gabriel.roman@....com>
> > > > Co-developed-by: Ghennadi Procopciuc <ghennadi.procopciuc@....com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ghennadi Procopciuc <ghennadi.procopciuc@....com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ciprian Marian Costea <ciprianmarian.costea@....nxp.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml | 102 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 102 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..3a77d4dd8f3d
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@
> > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > +---
> > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/rtc/nxp,s32g-rtc.yaml#
> > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > +
> > > > +title: NXP S32G2/S32G3 Real Time Clock (RTC)
> > > > +
> > > > +maintainers:
> > > > +  - Bogdan Hamciuc <bogdan.hamciuc@....com>
> > > > +  - Ciprian Marian Costea <ciprianmarian.costea@....com>
> > > > +
> > > > +properties:
> > > > +  compatible:
> > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > +      - enum:
> > > > +          - nxp,s32g2-rtc
> > > > +      - items:
> > > > +          - const: nxp,s32g3-rtc
> > > > +          - const: nxp,s32g2-rtc
> > > > +
> > > > +  reg:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  "#clock-cells":
> > > > +    const: 1
> > > > +
> > > > +  clocks:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - description: ipg clock drives the access to the
> > > > +          RTC iomapped registers
> > > > +
> > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - const: ipg
> > > > +
> > > > +  assigned-clocks:
> > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > > +    items:
> > > > +      - description: Runtime clock source. It must be a clock
> > > > +            source for the RTC module. It will be disabled by hardware
> > > > +            during Standby/Suspend.
> > > > +      - description: Standby/Suspend clock source. It is optional
> > > > +            and can be used in case the RTC will continue ticking during
> > > > +            platform/system suspend. RTC hardware module contains a
> > > > +            hardware mux for clock source selection.
> > > 
> > > If the RTC h/w contains a mux, then your mux inputs should be listed in 
> > > 'clocks', not here.
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +  assigned-clock-parents:
> > > > +    description: List of phandles to each parent clock.
> > > > +
> > > > +  assigned-clock-rates:
> > > > +    description: List of frequencies for RTC clock sources.
> > > > +            RTC module contains 2 hardware divisors which can be
> > > > +            enabled or not. Hence, available frequencies are the following
> > > > +            parent_freq, parent_freq / 512, parent_freq / 32 or
> > > > +            parent_freq / (512 * 32)
> > > 
> > > In general, assigned-clocks* do not need to be documented and should 
> > > never be required.
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > > +required:
> > > > +  - compatible
> > > > +  - reg
> > > > +  - interrupts
> > > > +  - "#clock-cells"
> > > > +  - clocks
> > > > +  - clock-names
> > > > +  - assigned-clocks
> > > > +  - assigned-clock-parents
> > > > +  - assigned-clock-rates
> > > > +
> > > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > > +
> > > > +examples:
> > > > +  - |
> > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/arm-gic.h>
> > > > +    #include <dt-bindings/interrupt-controller/irq.h>
> > > > +
> > > > +    rtc0: rtc@...60000 {
> > > > +        compatible = "nxp,s32g3-rtc",
> > > > +                   "nxp,s32g2-rtc";
> > > > +        reg = <0x40060000 0x1000>;
> > > > +        interrupts = <GIC_SPI 121 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;
> > > > +        #clock-cells = <1>;
> > > > +        clocks = <&clks 54>;
> > > > +        clock-names = "ipg";
> > > > +        /*
> > > > +         * Configuration of default parent clocks.
> > > > +         * 'assigned-clocks' 0-3 IDs are Runtime clock sources
> > > > +         * 4-7 IDs are Suspend/Standby clock sources.
> > > > +         */
> > > > +        assigned-clocks = <&rtc0 2>, <&rtc0 4>;
> > > 
> > > That's weird...
> > > 
> > > > +        assigned-clock-parents = <&clks 56>, <&clks 55>;
> > > 
> > > I'd expect these should be in 'clocks'. I don't think this node should 
> > > be a clock provider unless it provides a clock to something outside the 
> > > RTC.
> > > 
> > > Looks like you are just using assigned-clocks to configure the clock mux 
> > > in the RTC. That's way over complicated. Just define a vendor specific 
> > > property with the mux settings. 
> > 
> > I just read v1 and got told use the clock framework...
> > 
> > I disagree completely. Tons of h/w blocks have the ability to select 
> > (internal to the block) from multiple clock sources. Making the block a 
> > clock provider to itself is completely pointless and an overkill, and 
> > we *never* do that. Any display controller or audio interface has 
> > mutiple clock sources as just 2 examples.
> 
> And in 6 months, we are going to learn that the rtc is used to clock the
> wifi chip or whatever and we are going to need to add everything in the
> CCF and we will have an unused property that we are going to have to
> support forever to avoid breaking the ABI. This already happened...

For that to happen, the RTC needs to have a clock output. AFAICT, from 
the series it doesn't have any clock output. If it does have an output 
clock, then yes, I would agree with you. But I only know as much as what 
is put here about this h/w.

Rob

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