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Message-ID: <CAGxU2F6yzqb0o_pQDakBbCj3RdKy_XfZfzGsiywnYL65g6WeGg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:19:04 +0100
From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@...hat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>, linux-coco@...ts.linux.dev, 
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, 
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@....de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org, 
	x86@...nel.org, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>, Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, 
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Claudio Carvalho <cclaudio@...ux.ibm.com>, 
	Dov Murik <dovmurik@...ux.ibm.com>, Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/sev: add a SVSM vTPM platform device

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 4:04 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:55:41AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 10:40 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 03:34:23PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > >
> > > > +               if (platform_device_add_data(&tpm_device, &pops,
> > > > sizeof(pops)))
> > > > +                       return -ENODEV;
> > > > +               if (platform_device_register(&tpm_device))
> > > > +                       return -ENODEV;
> > >
> > > This seems like an old fashioned way to instantiate a device. Why do
> > > this? Just put the TPM driver here and forget about pops? Simple tpm
> > > drivers are not very complex.
> >
> > This driver may be for the AMD SEV SVSM vTPM module, but there are
> > other platforms where there's an internal vTPM which might be contacted
> > via a platform specific enlightenment (Intel SNP and Microsoft
> > OpenHCL).
>
> Sure, that's what TPM drivers are for, give those platforms TPM drivers
> too.
>
> Why put a mini driver hidden under an already mini driver?
>
> > This separation of the platform device from the contact
> > mechanism is designed to eliminate the duplication of having a platform
> > device within each implementation and to make any bugs in the mssim
> > protocol centrally fixable (every vTPM currently speaks this).
>
> That makes sense, but that isn't really what I see in this series?
>
> Patch one just has tpm_class_ops send() invoke pops sendrcv() after
> re-arranging the arguments?
>
> It looks to me like there would be mert in adding a new op to
> tpm_class_ops for the send/recv type operating mode and have the core
> code manage the buffer singleton (is a global static even *correct*??)
>
> After that, there is no meaningful shared code here, and maybe the
> TPM_CHIP_FLAG_IRQ hack can be avoided too.

IIUC you are proposing the following steps:
- extend tpm_class_ops to add a new send_recv() op and use it in
tpm_try_transmit()
- call the code in tpm_platform_probe() directly in sev

This would remove the intermediate driver, but at this point is it
worth keeping tpm_platform_send() and tpm_platform_recv() in a header
or module, since these are not related to sev, but to MSSIM?

As James mentioned, other platforms may want to reuse it.

Thanks,
Stefano

>
> Simply call tpm_chip_alloc/register from the sev code directly and
> provide an op that does the send/recv. Let the tpm core code deal with
> everything else. It is much cleaner than platform devices and driver
> data..


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