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Message-ID: <Z5fQqxmlr09M8wr8@home.paul.comp>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:30:03 +0300
From: Paul Fertser <fercerpav@...il.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc: "Winiarska, Iwona" <iwona.winiarska@...el.com>,
        "jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com" <jae.hyun.yoo@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Rudolph, Patrick" <patrick.rudolph@...ements.com>,
        "pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.dev" <pierre-louis.bossart@...ux.dev>,
        "Solanki, Naresh" <naresh.solanki@...ements.com>,
        "jdelvare@...e.com" <jdelvare@...e.com>,
        "fr0st61te@...il.com" <fr0st61te@...il.com>,
        "linux-hwmon@...r.kernel.org" <linux-hwmon@...r.kernel.org>,
        "stable@...r.kernel.org" <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "openbmc@...ts.ozlabs.org" <openbmc@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
        "joel@....id.au" <joel@....id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hwmon: (peci/dimmtemp) Do not provide fake thresholds
 data

Hi Guenter,

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 09:29:39AM -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 1/27/25 08:40, Winiarska, Iwona wrote:
> > On Thu, 2025-01-23 at 15:20 +0300, Paul Fertser wrote:
> > > When an Icelake or Sapphire Rapids CPU isn't providing the maximum and
> > > critical thresholds for particular DIMM the driver should return an
> > > error to the userspace instead of giving it stale (best case) or wrong
> > > (the structure contains all zeros after kzalloc() call) data.
> > > 
> > > The issue can be reproduced by binding the peci driver while the host is
> > > fully booted and idle, this makes PECI interaction unreliable enough.
> > > 
> > > Fixes: 73bc1b885dae ("hwmon: peci: Add dimmtemp driver")
> > > Fixes: 621995b6d795 ("hwmon: (peci/dimmtemp) Add Sapphire Rapids support")
> > > Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul Fertser <fercerpav@...il.com>
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Thank you for the patch.
> > Did you have a chance to test it with OpenBMC dbus-sensors?
> > In general, the change looks okay to me, but since it modifies the behavior
> > (applications will need to handle this, and returning an error will happen more
> > often) we need to confirm that it does not cause any regressions for userspace.
> > 
> 
> I would also like to understand if the error is temporary or permanent.
> If it is permanent, the attributes should not be created in the first
> place. It does not make sense to have limit attributes which always report
> -ENODATA.

The error is temporary. The underlying reason is that when host CPUs
go to deep enough idle sleep state (probably C6) they stop responding
to PECI requests from BMC. Once something starts running the CPU
leaves C6 and starts responding and all the temperature data
(including the thresholds) becomes available again.

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