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Message-ID: <9bc6a8b9-2d78-4aef-801d-21425426d3a1@lunn.ch>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 14:53:46 +0100
From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To: Jijie Shao <shaojijie@...wei.com>
Cc: davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com, kuba@...nel.org,
	pabeni@...hat.com, andrew+netdev@...n.ch, horms@...nel.org,
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	jonathan.cameron@...wei.com, shameerali.kolothum.thodi@...wei.com,
	salil.mehta@...wei.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/7] net: hibmcge: Add self test supported in
 this module

On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 10:46:31AM +0800, Jijie Shao wrote:
> 
> on 2025/2/14 3:59, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:55:24AM +0800, Jijie Shao wrote:
> > > This patch supports many self test: Mac, SerDes and Phy.
> > > 
> > > To implement self test, this patch implements a simple packet sending and
> > > receiving function in the driver. By sending a packet in a specific format,
> > > driver considers that the test is successful if the packet is received.
> > > Otherwise, the test fails.
> > > 
> > > The SerDes hardware is on the BMC side, Therefore, when the SerDes loopback
> > > need enabled, driver notifies the BMC through an event message.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jijie Shao <shaojijie@...wei.com>
> > Please take a look at the work Gerhard Engleder is doing, and try not
> > to reinvent net/core/selftest.c
> > 
> >      Andrew
> 
> I actually knew about this, but after browsing the source code, I gave up using it.
> 
> I have an additional requirement: serdes loopback and mac loopback.
> However, they are not supported in net/core/selftest.c.

Which is why i pointed you toward Gerhard. He found similar
limitations in the code, wanting to add in extra tests, same as you.
Two developers wanting to do that same things, suggests the core
should be extended to support that, not two different copies hidden
away in drivers.

Maybe my initial advice about not exporting the helpers was bad? I
don't know. Please chat with Gerhard and come up with a design that
makes the core usable for both your uses cases, and anybody else
wanting to embed similar self tests in their driver.

	Andrew

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