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Message-ID: <172F304A-B719-4FBB-8FF5-23B6961A2DCE@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:40:35 +0000
From: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@...cle.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
CC: Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        David
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/13] Clavis LSM



> On Mar 20, 2025, at 4:40 PM, James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2025-03-20 at 16:24 +0000, Eric Snowberg wrote:
>> Having lockdown enforcement has always been 
>> a requirement to get a shim signed by Microsoft.
> 
> This is factually incorrect.  Microsoft transferred shim signing to an
> independent process run by a group of open source maintainers a while
> ago:

Yes, the shim-review process is understood.  I'm not sure how my sentence 
is factually incorrect though. Unless you are saying Microsoft no longer 
maintains the private key.  Hopefully that is not the case, since the public 
key ships on just about every single PC built.

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