linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1 1/7] virtio-gpu api: add blob userptr resource

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Message-ID: <d1cb3ade-997b-45c5-a197-4e2ab88f9835@amd.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 10:44:46 +0800
From: "Huang, Honglei1" <Honglei1.Huang@....com>
To: Gurchetan Singh <gurchetansingh@...omium.org>
Cc: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@...il.com>,
 David Airlie <airlied@...hat.com>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@...hat.com>,
 Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@...il.com>,
 Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com>,
 Maxime Ripard <mripard@...nel.org>, Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>,
 Simona Vetter <simona@...ll.ch>, Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>,
 Huang Rui <ray.huang@....com>, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
 virtualization@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@...labora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/7] virtio-gpu api: add blob userptr resource



On 2025/3/18 19:25, Huang, Honglei1 wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2025/3/18 9:37, Gurchetan Singh wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 2:52 AM Huang, Honglei1 <Honglei1.Huang@....com 
>> <mailto:Honglei1.Huang@....com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On 2025/3/1 5:21, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
>>      > On 2/28/25 12:36 AM, Honglei Huang wrote:
>>      >> From: Honglei Huang <Honglei1.Huang@....com
>>     <mailto:Honglei1.Huang@....com>>
>>      >>
>>      >> Add a new resource for blob resource, called userptr, used for 
>> let
>>      >> host access guest user space memory, to acquire buffer based 
>> userptr
>>      >> feature in virtio GPU.
>>      >>
>>      >> - The capset VIRTIO_GPU_CAPSET_HSAKMT used for context init,
>>      >> in this series patches only HSAKMT context can use the userptr
>>      >> feature. HSAKMT is a GPU compute library in HSA stack, like
>>      >> the role libdrm in mesa stack.
>>      >
>>      > Userptr should not be limited to HSMKMT contexts.  Userptr can
>>      > accelerate shm buffers by avoiding a copy from guest to host, and
>>      > it can be implemented using grant tables on Xen.
>>
>>     Yes, I totally agree userptr can accelerate shm buffers, but I 
>> currently
>>     don't know if there are any other projects working on similar 
>> features,
>>     or if maintainers have any opinions or better ways to implement 
>> them, so
>>     I temporarily limit this feature to HSAKMT context only.
>>
>>     I am waiting for everyone's opinions, please provide your thoughts.
>>
>>
>> I wonder if you can emulate userptr using udmabuf on the host-side?
>>
>> Essentially for the guest, it'll be a malloc'ed memory, which means a 
>> guest sg list.  We can convert the guest sg-list to udmabuf using 
>> well- known mechanisms on the host side.  I hope amdkfd can operate on 
>> dma- bufs too?
>>
>> I do such a feature that would have a more generic utility outside of 
>> HSAKMT contexts and not rely on Xen-specific grant tables  ... 
>> checkout VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE in crosvm for an 
>> example.
> 
> I think userptr can be emulated by udmabuf if the sg list is from guest 
> user sapce and not moveable, amdkfd can operate dma-buf, and the userptr 
> feature can be achieved by partial functions of dma-buf as far as I can 
> see.
> 
> But the udmabuf need managed by UMD, this will result in some 
> performance loss, and we are planning to implement virtio GPU userptr 
> using hmm_rang_fault, udmabuf solution may be completely different from 
> this one.
> 
> I saw the feature VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE is used by 
> the crosvm in beta branch, but I can not find the kernel virtio gpu 
> part, how to access it? Maybe I can try or help.

Hi Gurchetan,

	I found VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE has been added into 
crosvm 4 years ago. But I can not find the corresponding kernel 
implementation, also can not find in chromeos kernel:
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/.
	And it seems like the VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE only 
support the system memory according to the commit message, but I can see 
the virtio has plan to support guest 
heap:https://github.com/google/crosvm/blob/dee7838993bae90cad49d5595b958cfe4c28b58d/devices/src/virtio/gpu/virtio_gpu.rs#L1056. 

	Can I create new virtio gpu patches for adding heap supported virtio 
gpu udmabuf?

Regards,
Honglei

> 
>>
>>
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Honglei
>>
>