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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 08:39:59 -0500
From: John Groves <John@...ves.net>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>
Cc: "Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>, 
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>, 
	Bernd Schubert <bschubert@....com>, John Groves <jgroves@...ron.com>, 
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@...el.com>, 
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@...el.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, 
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, 
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	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev, linux-cxl@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <shajnocz@...hat.com>, 
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@...il.com>, Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>, 
	Aravind Ramesh <arramesh@...ron.com>, Ajay Joshi <ajayjoshi@...ron.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 10/18] famfs_fuse: Basic fuse kernel ABI enablement for
 famfs

On 25/07/04 09:54AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 8:51 PM John Groves <John@...ves.net> wrote:
> >
> > * FUSE_DAX_FMAP flag in INIT request/reply
> >
> > * fuse_conn->famfs_iomap (enable famfs-mapped files) to denote a
> >   famfs-enabled connection
> >
> > Signed-off-by: John Groves <john@...ves.net>
> > ---
> >  fs/fuse/fuse_i.h          |  3 +++
> >  fs/fuse/inode.c           | 14 ++++++++++++++
> >  include/uapi/linux/fuse.h |  4 ++++
> >  3 files changed, 21 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/fuse/fuse_i.h b/fs/fuse/fuse_i.h
> > index 9d87ac48d724..a592c1002861 100644
> > --- a/fs/fuse/fuse_i.h
> > +++ b/fs/fuse/fuse_i.h
> > @@ -873,6 +873,9 @@ struct fuse_conn {
> >         /* Use io_uring for communication */
> >         unsigned int io_uring;
> >
> > +       /* dev_dax_iomap support for famfs */
> > +       unsigned int famfs_iomap:1;
> > +
> 
> pls move up to the bit fields members.

Oops, done, thanks.

> 
> >         /** Maximum stack depth for passthrough backing files */
> >         int max_stack_depth;
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/fuse/inode.c b/fs/fuse/inode.c
> > index 29147657a99f..e48e11c3f9f3 100644
> > --- a/fs/fuse/inode.c
> > +++ b/fs/fuse/inode.c
> > @@ -1392,6 +1392,18 @@ static void process_init_reply(struct fuse_mount *fm, struct fuse_args *args,
> >                         }
> >                         if (flags & FUSE_OVER_IO_URING && fuse_uring_enabled())
> >                                 fc->io_uring = 1;
> > +                       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FUSE_FAMFS_DAX) &&
> > +                           flags & FUSE_DAX_FMAP) {
> > +                               /* XXX: Should also check that fuse server
> > +                                * has CAP_SYS_RAWIO and/or CAP_SYS_ADMIN,
> > +                                * since it is directing the kernel to access
> > +                                * dax memory directly - but this function
> > +                                * appears not to be called in fuse server
> > +                                * process context (b/c even if it drops
> > +                                * those capabilities, they are held here).
> > +                                */
> > +                               fc->famfs_iomap = 1;
> > +                       }
> 
> 1. As long as the mapping requests are checking capabilities we should be ok
>     Right?

It depends on the definition of "are", or maybe of "mapping requests" ;)

Forgive me if this *is* obvious, but the fuse server capabilities are what
I think need to be checked here - not the app that it accessing a file.

An app accessing a regular file doesn't need permission to do raw access to
the underlying block dev, but the fuse server does - becuase it is directing
the kernel to access that for apps.

> 2. What's the deal with capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) in process_init_limits then?

I *think* that's checking the capabilities of the app that is accessing the
file, and not the fuse server. But I might be wrong - I have not pulled very
hard on that thread yet.

> 3. Darrick mentioned the need for a synchronic INIT variant for his work on
>     blockdev iomap support [1]

I'm not sure that's the same thing (Darrick?), but I do think Darrick's
use case probably needs to check capabilities for a server that is sending
apps (via files) off to access extents of block devices.

> 
> I also wonder how much of your patches and Darrick's patches end up
> being an overlap?

Darrick and I spent some time hashing through this, and came to the conclusion
that the actual overlap is slim-to-none. 

> 
> Thanks,
> Amir.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20250613174413.GM6138@frogsfrogsfrogs/

Thank you!
John

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