linux-kernel - Re: Sasha Levin is halucinating, non human entity, has no ethics and no memory

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Message-ID: <46f581c6-bb61-4163-91a5-27b90838dca8@kernel.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 15:14:38 -0600
From: Shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, sashal@...nel.org, stable@...r.kernel.org,
 kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, conduct@...nel.org,
 ebiederm@...ssion.com, shuah <shuah@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: Sasha Levin is halucinating, non human entity, has no ethics and
 no memory

On 7/8/25 14:39, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> So... I'm afraid subject is pretty accurate. I assume there's actual
> human being called "Sasha Levin" somewhere, but I interact with him
> via email, and while some interactions may be by human, some are
> written by LLM but not clearly marked as such.
> 
> And that's not okay -- because LLMs lie, have no ethics, and no
> memory, so there's no point arguing with them. Its just wasting
> everyone's time. People are not very thrilled by 'Markus Elfring' on
> the lists, as he seems to ignore feedback, but at least that's actual
> human, not a damn LLM that interacts as human but then ignores
> everything.
> 

You aren't talking to an LLM - My understanding is that Sasha is sending
these patches (generated with LLM assist) and discussing them on mailing
lists.

Do you have links/threads you can share to show how feedback is being
ignored?

> Do we need bot rules on the list?

We have to get humans to follow agreed upon rules of conduct before
coming up with bot rules.

> 
> Oh, and if you find my email offensive, feel free to ask LLM to change
> the tone.
> 

I am sorry this isn't how we treat our fellow developers - Please take
steps to make amends.

thanks,
-- Shuah (On behalf of the Code of Conduct Committee)