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Message-ID: <qivictc5jxyx62mqz6rlg6cix3tzaahqxbgk2ig3cq5d6esqyy@xydebz6gakxq>
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 17:34:41 -0400
From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>
Cc: Aquinas Admin <admin@...inas.su>, 
	Malte Schröder <malte.schroeder@...ip.de>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, 
	"Carl E. Thompson" <list-bcachefs@...lthompson.net>, linux-bcachefs@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17

On Sat, Aug 09, 2025 at 04:37:56PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> At this point in the development and deployment in bcachefs I can say,
> with confidence, that bcachefs is changing that, and that in time we
> will deliver _better_ reliability than ext4/xfs.

I should add, based on the data I'm seeing - this isn't far off, but due
to the sheer amount of deployment and usage ext4/xfs have had it'll be
awhile (perhaps a year) before we have the data to make hard claims.

The data from users versus btrfs is much clearer, we're already
delivering much better reliability in terms of "will my data be safe" -
there are numerous failure modes that simply don't exist in bcachefs.
And where we've had significant bugs (I count ~2 that have made it all
the way to a mainline .0 release), good debugging tools and a clean
design have meant that we've been able to resolve them by about the
third report, and in every case with significant hardening done after
the fact and real support for affected users.

IOW: your data is safe on bcachefs, and that's priority #1 for a
filesystem.

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