linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17

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Message-ID: <s3bemxtilqqkr4ncii23z2sjvwkkol5bab6ox5o76hifkzgqvk@uuiqgxzqhpnx>
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 02:51:31 -0400
From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
Cc: "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@....us>, Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org>, 
	Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>, Aquinas Admin <admin@...inas.su>, 
	Malte Schröder <malte.schroeder@...ip.de>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, 
	"Carl E. Thompson" <list-bcachefs@...lthompson.net>, linux-bcachefs@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17

On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 01:59:55AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> If Kent hadn't spoken up, I would have remained quiet and waited for
> Linus to do what he was going to do --- but no, he decided to take
> this public, and started slamming Linux's engineering standards.  I
> will point out that a good engineer has to have good people skills[2].
> In fact, there are many who have claimed that engineers' soft skills
> are just as important, if not more important than their technical
> abilities.

If I had simply remained quiet until it happened, I think the entire
bcachefs userbase, and my funders, would have been absolutely furious
with me.

And yes, the kernel engineering processes and standards that got us to
the point are absolutely relevant to the discussion.