linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Documentation: management-style: Correct "know" past participle

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Message-ID: <20250826-fearless-glossy-dinosaur-46ebbf@lemur>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 10:46:50 -0400
From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@...uxfoundation.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>, 
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Linux Documentation <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Linux Kernel Workflows <workflows@...r.kernel.org>, Fox Foster <fox@...dis.ed.ac.uk>, 
	Federico Vaga <federico.vaga@...a.pv.it>, Jonathan Neuschäfer <j.neuschaefer@....net>, 
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: management-style: Correct "know" past
 participle

On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:47:28PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> > Management style docs writes on people under a manager, where they know
> > the details better than the manager himself, in past perfect tense. Yet,
> > "know" is in infinitive form instead.
> >
> > Correct the verb form.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@...il.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/process/management-style.rst | 4 ++--
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst
> > index dfbc69bf49d435..1381b253b19ef4 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst
> > @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ actually true.
> >  The name of the game is to **avoid** having to make a decision.  In
> >  particular, if somebody tells you "choose (a) or (b), we really need you
> >  to decide on this", you're in trouble as a manager.  The people you
> > -manage had better know the details better than you, so if they come to
> > +manage had better known the details than you, so if they come to
> >  you for a technical decision, you're screwed.  You're clearly not
> 
> This seems actively wrong ... ?

I do believe this is a clear indicator that the whole sentence needs to be
reworded:

    ... if somebody tells you to "choose (a) or (b), we really need you to
    decide on this," you're in trouble as a manager. The people you manage
    most likely know the details better than you, so if they come to you for
    a technical decision, ...

This change would detract from the... unique... style of this document, but
would hopefully be less confusing to non-native speakers.

-K