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Message-ID: <CACRpkdYXy9ZgbAZKUdquxdp0X0m5AHT82K74Ex-ZAyEx=Uwi1w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 19:51:27 +0200
From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>
Cc: Gary Yang <gary.yang@...tech.com>, robh@...nel.org, krzk+dt@...nel.org, 
	conor+dt@...nel.org, linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, cix-kernel-upstream@...tech.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] pinctrl: cix: Add pin-controller support for sky1

On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:07 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org> wrote:
> On 27/08/2025 04:42, Gary Yang wrote:

> > +     pinctrl_provide_dummies();
> > +     dev_info(&pdev->dev, "initialized SKY1 pinctrl driver\n");
>
>
> No, please drop. Drivers should be silent on success.

I usually think this is a matter of taste.

I suppose the reason why a lot of drivers have some "hello world" message
is that missing probe calls is sometimes an issue.

If you mistakenly disable the driver in Kconfig (or due to other Kconfig
changes that just happen ...), how do you know from the dmesg
what error you made, when comparing it to a successful boot. There
are no *error* messages from the driver either, just the same silence as
when it's enabled. With pinctrl, random completely unrelated stuff just
stops working.

If you see that the "hello world" from that driver is missing, you know it
isn't probing, instead of finding it out after combing through the .config
for the third time.

But I know a lot of people are dmesg minimalists, because it's just too
much information and they just want errors there. It makes sense in a
way too.

So as subsystem maintainer I have no hard opinion on it.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

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