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Message-Id: <20250916191645.15aae276992acafe7f7e723e@linux-foundation.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 19:16:45 -0700
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] vma count: fixes, test and improvements

On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 11:12:03 +0100 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 03:34:01PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Anyhow, this -rc cycle has been quite the firehose in MM and I'm
> > feeling a need to slow things down for additional stabilization and so
> > people hopefully get additional bandwidth to digest the material we've
> > added this far.  So I think I'll just cherrypick [1/7] for now.  A
> > great flood of positive review activity would probably make me revisit
> > that ;)
> >
> 
> Kalesh - I do intend to look at this series when I have a chance. My review
> workload has been insane so it's hard to keep up at the moment.
> 
> Andrew - This cycle has been crazy, speaking from point of view of somebody
> doing a lot of review, it's been very very exhausting from this side too,
> and this kind of work can feel a little... thankless... sometimes :)

I hear you.  I'm shedding most everything now, to give us a couple of
weeks to digest.

> I feel like we maybe need a way to ask people to slow down, sometimes at
> least.

Yup, I'm sending submitters private emails explaining the situation.

Maybe they should be public emails, I find it a hard call.

> Perhaps being less accepting of patches during merge window is one aspect,
> as the merge window leading up to this cycle was almost the same review
> load as when the cycle started.

I'm having trouble understanding what you said here?

> Anyway, TL;DR: I think we need to be mindful of reviewer sanity as a factor
> in all this too :)
> 
> (I am spekaing at Kernel Recipes then going on a very-badly-needed 2.5 week
> vacataion afterwards over the merge window so I hope to stave off burnout
> that way. Be good if I could keep mails upon return to 3 digits, but I have
> my doubts :P)

I'd blow that in three days ;)

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