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Message-ID: <c79173d8-6f18-40fa-9621-e691990501e4@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 22:13:47 +0200
From: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>, "Roy, Patrick" <roypat@...zon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/12] KVM: guest_memfd: add module param for disabling
 TLB flushing

On 25.09.25 21:59, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/25/25 12:20, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 25.09.25 20:27, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 9/24/25 08:22, Roy, Patrick wrote:
>>>> Add an option to not perform TLB flushes after direct map manipulations.
>>>
>>> I'd really prefer this be left out for now. It's a massive can of worms.
>>> Let's agree on something that works and has well-defined behavior before
>>> we go breaking it on purpose.
>>
>> May I ask what the big concern here is?
> 
> It's not a _big_ concern. 

Oh, I read "can of worms" and thought there is something seriously 
problematic :)

> I just think we want to start on something
> like this as simple, secure, and deterministic as possible.

Yes, I agree. And it should be the default. Less secure would have to be 
opt-in and documented thoroughly.

> 
> Let's say that with all the unmaps that load_unaligned_zeropad() faults
> start to bite us. It'll take longer to find them if the TLB isn't flushed.
> 
> Basically, it'll make the bad things happen sooner rather than later.

Agreed.

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


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