linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 08/21] rcu: Add noinstr-fast rcu_read_{,un}lock_tasks

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Message-ID: <CAADnVQJQCA-PCnaCVP8QE8W-S_8PsX8W=L7AUjo2Q10ekYndUA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 08:56:01 -0700
From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
Cc: rcu@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@...a.com>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, 
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, 
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/21] rcu: Add noinstr-fast rcu_read_{,un}lock_tasks_trace()
 APIs

On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 6:38 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 06:37:33PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 7:48 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > +static inline struct srcu_ctr __percpu *rcu_read_lock_tasks_trace(void)
> > > +{
> > > +       struct srcu_ctr __percpu *ret = __srcu_read_lock_fast(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct);
> > > +
> > > +       rcu_try_lock_acquire(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct.dep_map);
> > > +       if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU_NO_MB))
> > > +               smp_mb(); // Provide ordering on noinstr-incomplete architectures.
> > > +       return ret;
> > > +}
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > @@ -50,14 +97,15 @@ static inline void rcu_read_lock_trace(void)
> > >  {
> > >         struct task_struct *t = current;
> > >
> > > +       rcu_try_lock_acquire(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct.dep_map);
> > >         if (t->trc_reader_nesting++) {
> > >                 // In case we interrupted a Tasks Trace RCU reader.
> > > -               rcu_try_lock_acquire(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct.dep_map);
> > >                 return;
> > >         }
> > >         barrier();  // nesting before scp to protect against interrupt handler.
> > > -       t->trc_reader_scp = srcu_read_lock_fast(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct);
> > > -       smp_mb(); // Placeholder for more selective ordering
> > > +       t->trc_reader_scp = __srcu_read_lock_fast(&rcu_tasks_trace_srcu_struct);
> > > +       if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU_NO_MB))
> > > +               smp_mb(); // Placeholder for more selective ordering
> > >  }
> >
> > Since srcu_fast() __percpu pointers must be incremented/decremented
> > within the same task, should we expose "raw" rcu_read_lock_tasks_trace()
> > at all?
> > rcu_read_lock_trace() stashes that pointer within a task,
> > so implementation guarantees that unlock will happen within the same task,
> > while _tasks_trace() requires the user not to do stupid things.
> >
> > I guess it's fine to have both versions and the amount of copy paste
> > seems justified, but I keep wondering.
> > Especially since _tasks_trace() needs more work on bpf trampoline
> > side to pass this pointer around from lock to unlock.
> > We can add extra 8 bytes to struct bpf_tramp_run_ctx and save it there,
> > but set/reset run_ctx operates on current anyway, so it's not clear
> > which version will be faster. I suspect _trace() will be good enough.
> > Especially since trc_reader_nesting is kinda an optimization.
>
> The idea is to convert callers and get rid of rcu_read_lock_trace()
> in favor of rcu_read_lock_tasks_trace(), the reason being the slow
> task_struct access on x86.  But if the extra storage is an issue for
> some use cases, we can keep both.  In that case, I would of course reduce
> the copy-pasta in a future patch.

slow task_struct access on x86? That's news to me.
Why is it slow?
static __always_inline struct task_struct *get_current(void)
{
        if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_USE_X86_SEG_SUPPORT))
                return this_cpu_read_const(const_current_task);

        return this_cpu_read_stable(current_task);
}


The former is used with gcc 14+ while later is with clang.
I don't understand the difference between the two.
I'm guessing gcc14+ can be optimized better within the function,
but both look plenty fast.

We need current access anyway for run_ctx.