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Message-ID: <CAP-5=fVERf8jf3MrwiEfQtChvC1KUe0EEASK1aVk-UKkk=Pb0w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 06:31:51 -0700
From: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>, Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] perf stat: Additional verbose details for <not
supported> events
On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 10:51 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 09:31:53AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 1:43 AM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 05, 2025 at 11:14:21AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > > If an event shows as "<not supported>" in perf stat output, in verbose
> > > > mode add the strerror output to help diagnose the issue.
> > > >
> > > > Consider:
> > > > ```
> > > > $ perf stat -e cycles,data_read,instructions true
> > > >
> > > > Performance counter stats for 'true':
> > > >
> > > > 357,457 cycles:u
> > > > <not supported> MiB data_read:u
> > > > 156,182 instructions:u # 0.44 insn per cycle
> > > >
> > > > 0.001250315 seconds time elapsed
> > > >
> > > > 0.001283000 seconds user
> > > > 0.000000000 seconds sys
> > > > ```
> > > >
> > > > To understand why the data_read uncore event failed, with this change:
> > > > ```
> > > > $ perf stat -v -e cycles,data_read,instructions true
> > > > Using CPUID GenuineIntel-6-8D-1
> > > > cycles -> cpu/cycles/
> > > > data_read -> uncore_imc_free_running_0/data_read/
> > > > data_read -> uncore_imc_free_running_1/data_read/
> > > > instructions -> cpu/instructions/
> > > > Control descriptor is not initialized
> > > > Warning:
> > > > kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2, trying to fall back to excluding kernel and hypervisor samples
> > > > Warning:
> > > > kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2, trying to fall back to excluding kernel and hypervisor samples
> > > > Warning:
> > > > kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2, trying to fall back to excluding kernel and hypervisor samples
> > > > Warning:
> > > > data_read:u event is not supported by the kernel.
> > > > Invalid event (data_read:u) in per-thread mode, enable system wide with '-a'.
> > > > Warning:
> > > > kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2, trying to fall back to excluding kernel and hypervisor samples
> > > > Warning:
> > > > data_read:u event is not supported by the kernel.
> > > > Invalid event (data_read:u) in per-thread mode, enable system wide with '-a'.
> > > > cycles:u: 351621 362833 362833
> > > > failed to read counter data_read:u
> > > > failed to read counter data_read:u
> > > > instructions:u: 156184 362833 362833
> > > >
> > > > Performance counter stats for 'true':
> > > >
> > > > 351,621 cycles:u
> > > > <not supported> MiB data_read:u
> > > > 156,184 instructions:u # 0.44 insn per cycle
> > > >
> > > > 0.001584472 seconds time elapsed
> > > >
> > > > 0.001811000 seconds user
> > > > 0.000000000 seconds sys
> > > > ```
> > > > where without this change only "data_read:u event is not supported by
> > > > the kernel." is shown.
> > >
> > > I think what you say is:
> > >
> > > Before:
> > > data_read:u event is not supported by the kernel.
> > >
> > > After:
> > > data_read:u event is not supported by the kernel.
> > > Invalid event (data_read:u) in per-thread mode, enable system wide with '-a'.
> >
> > I kept things verbose as unfortunately the
> > "kernel.perf_event_paranoid=2" is important as is the use of
> > per-thread mode. Different paranoia levels lead to different errors
> > and unfortunately a lot of the time the error gets reported as "
> > data_read:u event is not supported by the kernel." and I'm not sure
> > all users will get that the key part there is the :u modifier.
>
> Yep, I'm ok with the change. But the changelog was a bit unclear what
> is being added exactly. IIUC we already have the paranoid message with
> the verbose level 1.
I thought the line:
"""
where without this change only "data_read:u event is not supported by
the kernel." is shown.
"""
covered this?
Thanks,
Ian
> > However, fixing evsel__open_strerror wasn't in scope for this change.
>
> Sure, we can handle that separately.
>
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
>
> >
> > > Off-topic, it'd be great if we reduce the number of the same warning
> > > messages. I think the data_read is from two uncore PMUs so the message
> > > was repeated. If we can connect the related evsels and show the
> > > messages once, then the output is more readable. Maybe we also want to
> > > show the fallback message just once (globally).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Namhyung
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > tools/perf/builtin-stat.c | 12 +++++++-----
> > > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c b/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > > index 7006f848f87a..84e06ec09cc2 100644
> > > > --- a/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > > +++ b/tools/perf/builtin-stat.c
> > > > @@ -624,8 +624,9 @@ static enum counter_recovery stat_handle_error(struct evsel *counter, int err)
> > > > */
> > > > if (err == EINVAL || err == ENOSYS || err == ENOENT || err == ENXIO) {
> > > > if (verbose > 0) {
> > > > - ui__warning("%s event is not supported by the kernel.\n",
> > > > - evsel__name(counter));
> > > > + evsel__open_strerror(counter, &target, err, msg, sizeof(msg));
> > > > + ui__warning("%s event is not supported by the kernel.\n%s\n",
> > > > + evsel__name(counter), msg);
> > > > }
> > > > return COUNTER_SKIP;
> > > > }
> > > > @@ -649,10 +650,11 @@ static enum counter_recovery stat_handle_error(struct evsel *counter, int err)
> > > > }
> > > > }
> > > > if (verbose > 0) {
> > > > + evsel__open_strerror(counter, &target, err, msg, sizeof(msg));
> > > > ui__warning(err == EOPNOTSUPP
> > > > - ? "%s event is not supported by the kernel.\n"
> > > > - : "skipping event %s that kernel failed to open.\n",
> > > > - evsel__name(counter));
> > > > + ? "%s event is not supported by the kernel.\n%s\n"
> > > > + : "skipping event %s that kernel failed to open.\n%s\n",
> > > > + evsel__name(counter), msg);
> > > > }
> > > > return COUNTER_SKIP;
> > > > }
> > > > --
> > > > 2.51.0.618.g983fd99d29-goog
> > > >
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