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Message-ID: <5fbaa51e-8220-4350-b805-abd451cc7b16@harin.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 01:54:47 +0900
From: Harin Lee <me@...in.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>,
 linux-sound@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] ALSA: ctxfi: Add support for Onkyo SE-300PCIE

Thanks for the suggestion.

Since this control only affects the routing between the RCA and Front
outputs (excluding S/PDIF), "Analog Playback Route" is the technically
correct name.

I will use "Analog Playback Route" as the ALSA control name and address
the points we discussed in v3.

Thanks,
Harin Lee

On 11/25/25 12:54 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 11:22:32 +0100,
> Harin Lee wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the review.
>>
>> The SE-300PCIE features separate hardware routing and DACs for the
>> Hi-Fi RCA output and the 7.1ch Front output, unlike other X-Fi cards
>> where the Front port serves both purposes.
>>
>> While ALSA resources typically map 1:1 to hardware, exposing a separate
>> mixer for the RCA port would likely confuse users and applications
>> regarding which device to use as the primary output. Therefore, the
>> "Dedicated Output Playback Enum" control is designed to let the user
>> select which physical output port (RCA or Front) is used for the
>> primary output.
>>
>> If you could suggest a standardized ALSA Enum name for this control, or
>> any better method to handle this, please let me know.
> 
> So it chooses the exclusive output for the main playback streams?
> Then it could be something like "Master Playback Route".
> If it doesn't include the digital outputs like SPDIF, it could be
> "Analog Playback Route" or whatever, too.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Takashi
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harin Lee
>>
>> On 11/24/25 5:38 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 12:33:51 +0100,
>>> Harin Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Takashi,
>>>>
>>>> The official Windows driver does not expose a specific mixer control
>>>> for this. It implicitly reserves RCA for stereo output and Front for
>>>> 7.1ch surround, and simply appears as 'Speaker' device in the Control
>>>> Panel.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if there are any additional points I should address
>>>> before I send v3.
>>>
>>> Then maybe we should reconsider what exactly this control serves for.
>>> It's for a dedicated control for what and how?
>>>
>>> The dedicated mic stuff seems rather internal-only, so it wasn't
>>> explicitly exposed.  But when we expose this, it should look more
>>> intuitive.
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Takashi
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Harin Lee
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/25 6:29 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 10:00:29 +0100,
>>>>> Harin Lee wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that 'rca_state' in patch 5 uses 'unsigned char'. While it is
>>>>>> safe due to the bounds check, I plan to switch it to 'unsigned int' for
>>>>>> strict correctness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have two questions regarding conventions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. ALSA control name (on patch 5): Is "Dedicated Output Playback Enum"
>>>>>> acceptable, or would you prefer a simpler name?
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally prefer a simpler one, but maybe it'd be a question how
>>>>> this (or equivalent) control is called on Windows or other OS.
>>>>> If it's also "Dedicated Output", then we can use it as is, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. CA20K2 port logic (on patch 6): The condition
>>>>>> 'if ((idx < 4) && ((hw->model != CTOK0010) || (idx < 3)))' handles
>>>>>> the non-standard RCA port mapping. Does this line require additional
>>>>>> comments or a helper function for better readability?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, a more comment wouldn't hurt.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Takashi
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you would prefer me to send a v3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/25 12:22 AM, Harin Lee wrote:
>>>>>>> I added support for the Onkyo SE-300PCIE (OK0010), a Creative X-Fi
>>>>>>> CA20K2-based sound card with dual TI PCM1798 DACs, a single TI PCM1681
>>>>>>> DAC for 7.1ch output, and a CS5364 ADC. This model differs
>>>>>>> significantly from other CA20K2-based variants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since official driver support for this hardware was discontinued a long
>>>>>>> time ago, this patch series enables the card to be used on modern
>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch series was developed using QEMU vfio tracing, and PCIe BAR
>>>>>>> dumps. Tested with analog output (up to 192kHz) and line/microphone
>>>>>>> input (up to 96kHz) at various sample rates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>>>>>      - Fix coding style issue (mixed declaration and code) in
>>>>>>>        dedicated_rca_put().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harin Lee (6):
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Add hw parameter to daio_mgr_dao_init()
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Add ADC helper functions for GPIO
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Use explicit output flag for DAIO resources
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Refactor resource alloc for sparse mappings
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Add support for dedicated RCA switching
>>>>>>>       ALSA: ctxfi: Add support for Onkyo SE-300PCIE (OK0010)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/ctatc.c      | 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/ctatc.h      |  8 +--
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.c     | 18 ++++---
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/ctdaio.h     |  3 ++
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/cthardware.h |  4 +-
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/cthw20k1.c   |  3 +-
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/cthw20k2.c   | 79 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>>>>>>      sound/pci/ctxfi/ctmixer.c    | 73 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>>>>>      8 files changed, 223 insertions(+), 62 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>


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