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Message-ID: <c78e9794-e63f-47f9-a4cb-e3b5625ab828@kernel.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 10:39:56 -0600
From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@...nel.org>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@...hat.com>,
 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
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 <zack.rusin@...adcom.com>, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
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 Vitaly Prosyak <vitaly.prosyak@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] Recover sysfb after DRM probe failure

On 1/15/26 10:36 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>    Hi,
> 
>>> At least for AMD GPUs remove_conflicting_devices() really early is
>>> necessary because otherwise some operations just result in a
>>> spontaneous system reboot.	
> 
>> It's similar for Intel. For us VGA emulation won't be used for EFI
>> boot, but we still can't have the previous driver poking around in
>> memory while the real driver is initializing. The entire memory layout
>> may get completely shuffled so there's no telling where such memory
>> accesses would land.
> 
> Can you do stuff like checking which firmware is needed and whenever
> that can be loaded from the filesystem before calling
> remove_conflicting_devices() ?
> 

That's something that I did in amdgpu a few years back.

I pushed the identification and ability to load firmware into early init 
stages.  It means that if you have a brand new GPU and run a modern 
kernel with an older linux-firmware snapshot amdgpu will fail probe and 
your framebuffer from EFI keeps working.

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