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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 11:34:13 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/29] fs: require filesystems to explicitly opt-in to
 nfsd export support

> It took me a while to sift through the code/patches/comments and come to
> this understanding and I apologise if I wasn't as clear earlier.  But
> my intuition was always that file handle stability was never the real
> issue, and maintainer choice was.  Hence my rejection of the

I very much agree with that assessment. Yet we so far have failed to
even agree that this is an acceptable position. Hence my irritation.

And apologies on my part if I'm curt. I'm simply annoyed by the very
lengthy and to me somewhat pointless debate here at times.

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