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Message-ID: <CAFfO_h7thTNV2fXkStdD-HH=kOy1uPL8=iJf0tkvYr8VvosoGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 22:57:12 +0600
From: Dorjoy Chowdhury <dorjoychy111@...il.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, brauner@...nel.org, jack@...e.cz, jlayton@...nel.org, 
	chuck.lever@...cle.com, alex.aring@...il.com, arnd@...db.de, 
	adilger@...ger.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] open: new O_REGULAR flag support

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 1:12 PM Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 12:23:45AM +0100, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> > In my view, this should be an openat2(2)-only API.
>
> fwiw +1 from me, the O_ flag situation is already terrible even without
> the validation woes.
>
> I find it most unfortunate the openat2 syscall reuses the O_ namespace.
> For my taste it would be best closed for business, with all new flag
> additions using a different space.
>
> I can easily see people passing O_WHATEVER to open and openat by blindly
> assuming they are supported just based on the name.
>
> that's a side mini-rant, too late to do anything here now
>
> > In addition, I would
> > propose that (instead of burning another O_* flag bit for this as a
> > special-purpose API just for regular files) you could have a mask of
> > which S_IFMT bits should be rejected as a new field in "struct
> > open_how". This would let you reject sockets or device inodes but permit
> > FIFOs and regular files or directories, for instance. This could even be
> > done without a new O_* flag at all (the zero-value how->sfmt_mask would
> > allow everything and so would work well with extensible structs), but we
> > could add an O2_* flag anyway.
>
> I don't think this works because the vars have overlapping bits:
>   #define S_IFBLK  0060000
>   #define S_IFDIR  0040000
>
> So you very much can't select what you want off of a bitmask.
>
> At best the field could be used to select the one type you are fine with.
>
> If one was to pursue the idea, some other defines with unique bits would
> need to be provided. But even then, semantics should be to only *allow*
> the bits you are fine with and reject the rest.
>
> But I'm not at all confident this is worth any effort -- with
> O_DIRECTORY already being there and O_REGULAR proposed, is there a use
> case which wants something else?
>

Good discussion. So should I just rename the O_REGULAR to O2_REGULAR
and create a VALID_OPENAT2_FLAGS and no need to do how->sfmt_mask
stuff?

> >
> > > +#define ENOTREG            134     /* Not a regular file */
> > > +
> >
> [..]
> > Then to be fair, the existence of ENOTBLK, ENOTDIR, ENOTSOCK, etc. kind
> > of justify the existence of ENOTREG too. Unfortunately, you won't be
> > able to use ENOTREG if you go with my idea of having mask bits in
> > open_how... (And what errno should we use then...? Hm.)
> >
>
> The most useful behavior would indicate what was found (e.g., a pipe).
>
> The easiest way to do it would create errnos for all types (EISDIR
> already exists for one), but I can't seriously propose that.
>
> Going the other way, EBADTYPE or something else reusable would be my
> idea.

Good point. Maybe ENOTREG is acceptable too?

Regards,
Dorjoy

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