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Message-ID: <20260201200649.GW3374091@killaraus>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2026 22:06:49 +0200
From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
Cc: linux-media@...r.kernel.org, jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com,
anisse@...ier.eu, oleksandr@...alenko.name,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...nel.org>,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@...ux.intel.com>,
Jacopo Mondi <jacopo.mondi@...asonboard.com>,
Ricardo Ribalda <ribalda@...omium.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] media: Virtual camera driver
On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 09:04:00PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 08:20:11PM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 03:33:38PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > vcam is a DMA-BUF backed virtual camera driver capable of creating video
> > > capture devices to which data can be streamed through /dev/vcam after
> > > calling VCAM_IOC_CREATE. Frames are pushed with VCAM_IOC_QUEUE and recycled
> > > with VCAM_IOC_DEQUEUE.
> > >
> > > Zero-copy semantics are supported for shared DMA-BUF between capture and
> > > output.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
> > > ---
> > > Early feedback e.g., is this completely in wrong direction? V4L2 world
> > > is relatively alien world, and thus I need a sanity check ;-)
> >
> > We already have multiple virtual drivers, including vivid and vimc.
> > Could you please explain the rationale for yet another one, and why the
> > new features it provides (if any) can't be added to existing drivers ?
>
> There is a notable user base for v4l2-loopback. It is the defacto choice
> for streaming phone cams.
This will then likely face the same hurdles as v4l2-loopback, the main
one being that camera support should be upstreamed with proper drivers
instead of a closed-source userspace daemon.
For phone cameras, the way forward upstream is libcamera. Until kernel
drivers for ISPs are available, the soft ISP is a stop-gap solution. It
recently gained GPU acceleration support (with work to improve image
quality with additional algorithms ongoing).
> The motivation here is to provide a service optimized for that use and
> purpose. It's virtual but non-generic i.e. not aimed for testing/emulation.
>
> > > .../driver-api/media/drivers/index.rst | 1 +
> > > .../driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst | 16 +
> > > MAINTAINERS | 8 +
> > > drivers/media/Kconfig | 13 +
> > > drivers/media/Makefile | 1 +
> > > drivers/media/vcam.c | 1700 +++++++++++++++++
> > > include/uapi/linux/vcam.h | 124 ++
> > > 7 files changed, 1863 insertions(+)
> > > create mode 100644 Documentation/driver-api/media/drivers/vcam.rst
> > > create mode 100644 drivers/media/vcam.c
> > > create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/vcam.h
[snip]
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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