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Message-ID: <CAGudoHFBN1seqAb3_=Ja+9jXP3EDjfkGfvGT6eqSBhB5_mrBWg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 18:33:19 +0100
From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
To: Michal Koutný <mkoutny@...e.com>
Cc: tj@...nel.org, hannes@...xchg.org, brauner@...nel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, cgroups@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] cgroup: avoid css_set_lock in cgroup_css_set_fork()

On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 5:55 PM Michal Koutný <mkoutny@...e.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 12:19:27PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com> wrote:
> > This is going to depend on the scale you test on. I was testing on
> > south of 32. But I also got a miniscule win from removing css set lock
> > as the problem for me, instead everything shifted to tasklist.
>
> To be on the same page -- that means you have nr_cpus >= 32?
>

south means less

> > Per my other e-mail tasklist lock retains the terrible 3-times locking
> > and it is doing rather expensive work while holding it. It is
> > plausible it happens to be at the top at that scale, but that's only
> > an argument for fixing it. Even if you don't see the css thing at the
> > top at the moment, it will be there once someone(tm) sorts out the
> > tasklist problem.
>
> I did a quick test (with 6.18.8-1.g886f4c4-default), first `perf top`
> while will-it-scale was running:

I don't know what this hash corresponds to.

>
>   74.23%  [kernel]                        [k] native_queued_spin_lock_slowpath
>    6.91%  [kernel]                        [k] intel_idle_irq
>    0.87%  [kernel]                        [k] update_sd_lb_stats.constprop.0
>    0.68%  [kernel]                        [k] _raw_spin_lock
>    0.63%  [kernel]                        [k] clear_page_erms
>    0.56%  [kernel]                        [k] sched_balance_find_dst_group
>    0.40%  [kernel]                        [k] alloc_vmap_area
>
> and then bpftrace for the waiters:
>   $ bpftrace -e 'kprobe:native_queued_spin_lock_slowpath {@[arg0]=count();}
>                  END {for($kv : @) {printf("%s\t%d\n", ksym($kv.0), (int64)$kv.1);} clear(@); }'\
>                  >bpftrace.out
>   $ sort -k2 -r -n bpftrace.out | head | column -t
>   pidmap_lock         10482583
>   nft_pcpu_tun_ctx    3693517
>   css_set_lock        1511164
>   input_pool          976252
>   tasklist_lock       798578
>   nft_pcpu_tun_ctx    481962
>   0xffff8abc3ffd55b0  95371
>   0xffff8a6d3ffd65b0  93686
>   0xffff8a5e218f0840  29501
>   0xffff8a5e451dca40  29421
>
> or measured by cummulative waiting time:
>   $ bpftrace -e 'kprobe:native_queued_spin_lock_slowpath {@[cpu]=arg0; @st[cpu]=nsecs;}
>                  kretprobe:native_queued_spin_lock_slowpath /@[cpu]/ {$lat=nsecs-@st[cpu]; @lats[@[cpu]]=sum($lat);}
>                  END {for($kv : @lats) {printf("%s\t%d\n", ksym($kv.0), (int64)$kv.1);} clear(@lats); clear(@st); clear(@) }'\
>                  >bpftrace2.out
>
>   $ sort -k2 -r -n bpftrace2.out | head -n15 | column -t
>   pidmap_lock         1931209805
>   rcu_state           1823286316
>   rcu_state           1581455156
>   rcu_state           1328804835
>   rcu_state           1299517157
>   rcu_state           1134101627
>   nft_pcpu_tun_ctx    1027837665
>   0xffff8abc3ffd55b0  861441978
>   0xffff8a6d3ffd65b0  850732998
>   css_set_lock        520009479
>   input_pool          316598763
>   tasklist_lock       127161061
>   0xffff8aac40023200  32380418
>   0xffff8a5e002ab600  30194951
>   rcu_state           18334578
>

If the only thing you applied is the patchset over at
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20251206131955.780557-1-mjguzik@gmail.com/
, then this lines up with my own measurements, where I said the pidmap
lock remains dominant.

That thing gets unclogged with a patch by Christian to move pidmap
handling out, which can be found here:
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260120-work-pidfs-rhashtable-v2-1-d593c4d0f576@kernel.org/

Afterwards it is css_set_lock at the top of the profile.

> Hm, it's interesting that is suggestive of why I saw no big change with
> css_set_lock in my setup.
>

Regardless, of the above, I noted sorting out this lock does not
meaningfully improve performance, it merely shifts contention to
tasklist afterwards.

>
> Michal

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